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  1. #61
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    The solution for making Zenos a scion is easy to pull off.

    Say it with me: Amnesia.

    Tried it with Yotsuyu. We saw how well that worked out.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    One other thing about Zenos being a Reaper is that Reapers call on the void and can channel and become living hosts to Voidsent.

    Zenos, as we know, is now aware that Hydaelyn and Zodiark are Primals. He's already been the host of Shinryu so it's entirely possible he'd use the power of a Reaper to host Zodiark. This could be especially likely if Hydaelyn is actually the penultimate villain of Endwalker. I can see Zenos wanting to fist fight Hydaelyn. After all, he's been obsessed with the Warrior of Light this whole time and the WoL gets their power from Hydaelyn.
    Do we get our strength from Hydealyn or is it just she makes it seem that we do.

    I think we get the "blessing of light" from her, but not sure that translates as her being the source of our strength. I am reminded of havensward where midgardsormr "blocked" off our connection with hydealyn... yet despite this we still prevailed. Yoshi P also said that we should read up on Heavensward for Endwalker so i wouldnt be surprised if this is part of the reason.

    or it might not be. I'm still in the camp of Hydealyn is something that needs to be stopped and i hope zodiark is something that needs to be restored. Id like it to end with us putting them in balance over Zodiark being the evil and Hydealyn being all benevolent.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I mean wouldnt they then just completely spoiler a plot point if that truly was showing just all the scions?
    We've also got potential "human" form Venat at the top there, so the spoil ship is sailing twice, they've also spoiled a lot during fanfeast and in the past, they seem fine with some spoilers so long as they're void of enough context. If, IF Zenos dose join us in some capacity we can't rally glean anything beyond it might happen from this art, the how, why or anything else is still left to be learned.
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    I don't really care if he joins the scions or not, I just want to see more of my boy! Zenos is such a cool character, such a great villain. Heck, if Emet Selch managed to be part of the boys (even if for just a while), I'm sure they can manage something for MAH BOI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlitzAceRush View Post
    We've also got potential "human" form Venat at the top there, so the spoil ship is sailing twice, they've also spoiled a lot during fanfeast and in the past, they seem fine with some spoilers so long as they're void of enough context. If, IF Zenos dose join us in some capacity we can't rally glean anything beyond it might happen from this art, the how, why or anything else is still left to be learned.
    Random thought popped my head...doesn't Emet-Selch have a bunch of clones of himself in Garlemald? We could have an Ascian who shaped an Emet-Selch clone to a Zenos clone, or perhaps we have actual clones running parts of Garlemald, such as if it was Nerva. Would be one hell of a plot twist if Nerva and Zenos were both clones of somebody, with Zenos being the "failed experiment" while Nerva is the perfected one.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Random thought popped my head...doesn't Emet-Selch have a bunch of clones of himself in Garlemald? We could have an Ascian who shaped an Emet-Selch clone to a Zenos clone, or perhaps we have actual clones running parts of Garlemald, such as if it was Nerva. Would be one hell of a plot twist if Nerva and Zenos were both clones of somebody, with Zenos being the "failed experiment" while Nerva is the perfected one.
    He does seem to be wearing a different outfit from his very red trimmed reaper one, but that's my point, who knows? It's one picture it gives one pause but we've nothing to go on other than it's supposed to be the Scions and someone who looks like Zeons is standing in amongst us.
    Personally I'd like it to actually be Zenos's but we'll have to see, it's Final Fantasy, nothings off of the table.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anvaire View Post
    Do we get our strength from Hydealyn or is it just she makes it seem that we do.

    I think we get the "blessing of light" from her, but not sure that translates as her being the source of our strength. I am reminded of havensward where midgardsormr "blocked" off our connection with hydealyn... yet despite this we still prevailed. Yoshi P also said that we should read up on Heavensward for Endwalker so i wouldnt be surprised if this is part of the reason.

    or it might not be. I'm still in the camp of Hydealyn is something that needs to be stopped and i hope zodiark is something that needs to be restored. Id like it to end with us putting them in balance over Zodiark being the evil and Hydealyn being all benevolent.
    Whether we do or don't, ZENOS would probably feel we do, right? Or that we at least have enough of a connection that fist fighting Hydaelyn would be a cute time for him.

    If he beats us in a fight he'll set his sights on what seems to be an even more powerful foe.

    Or he carries Zodiark as a Reaper and we and/or an Oracle (the lady at the top who may or may not be Venat) carry Hydaelyn to fight whatever the source of the Sound is.
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    I, for one, would like to see the story progress this way. The Fandaniel/Zenos evil duo is too 1-demensional and boring to me.

    I always wonder about Zenos' unnatural fixations to the PC, and was thinking maybe he actually processes the remaining soul fragments; or maybe it would be someone else in that body, e.g. Emet-Selch... Well, all sort of possibilities open the door now.

    And, Zenos never bothered me as an enemy. He always seemed to have killed more Garlean generals and soldiers than the scions' friends (who he likes to beat up then say some words to hurt your feeling and ego rather than end your life).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayuhra View Post
    and the WoL gets their power from Hydaelyn.
    Hmm I dunno how true that is at this point tbh. I mean, yeah, the blessing of light made it possible for us to contain the light long enough to merge with our soul shard from the first, but other than that what has Hydaelyn done for us lately?
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    If Gaius can be redeemed so can Zenos & honestly as of right now he really hasn't done much cause his goals was never to kill but to have people rise up & give him the fight he yearned for thus he would kill his own soldiers & commanders for doing too much he doesn't want broken prey, he wants prey that'll happily bare it's fangs. I never get the Murder Hobo comment he really hasn't killed that many in current story he's got some of cleanest hands out of the Garleans Leaders maybe Regula might be only one with cleaner hands than Zenos.

    Also few factors he contemplated changing his ways as Elezenos but decided to remain a bad guy, Emet experimented on him & this is a 4 heavy expansion & you know who had a twisted mind/voice in head & went goodish/repented Goldbez, he knows little kindness just people doing job looking after the Prince & naught but Assassin's trying to kill him from child hood. I think good chance Fan Danial will betray him & we'll be there to save him & he'll slowly change over the second half of 6.0.

    I'd say I also hope they didn't bring him back just to fight him whilst I wont mind fighting him I really hope there's more to him in EW & he does change otherwise if not I'll be wishing they had left him dead.
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