Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Vahlnir]

Went back and looked at the murals and the first one (with the hrothgar primal) actually shows a bulkier female but the more recent mural with the queen and her servants shows them as being being slightly shorter and slimmer than the roegadyn in the same mural curious what caused nthe change in their depiction perhaps they had begun work on the missing genders by that point and had a better idea of what they wanted to do with hrothgals or it could just be a weird coincidence

Personally, I'm not reading too much into ancient murals. They didn't paint that great of a picture to begin with.

[SturmChurro]

well you are just gonna have to cope till they add more
female hrothgar are planned regardless now.

Viera players have been coping for just about two years. We had the promise of hairstyles well before the promise of female hrothgar. We can only hope that our updates aren't put even further on hold for some femroe looking, ugly, femhroth that almost nobody would play.

Same could be said about Viera taking away and wasting resources to make, when that time and effort could have been spent on things like updated character creator.
I would enjoy more customization options, Not having more options for the character models that have been around for 6 years is cutting my enjoyment.
Should Viera go away then?

They can't add to the creator due to memory allocation or whatever, that's why we don't get more options. We can't get WoD stubble because it's apparently too hard to implement. Every other race in the game has been getting hairs regularly - and still gets them regularly - despite the addition of female viera, and now male viera.

[BunniEclair]

Viera players have been coping for just about two years. We had the promise of hairstyles well before the promise of female hrothgar. We can only hope that our updates aren't put even further on hold for some femroe looking, ugly, femhroth that almost nobody would play.

I want viera hair as much as anyone else but this isn’t it. We don’t even know what they will look like yet. There are a lot of people who enjoy beastial races, and even in my small circles of friends there are several people super pumped and ready to change into them if they do a good job with their design. Even if they probably won’t be as popular as kemonomimi races (beast races are never the most popular), they are still a worthy use of dev resources.

They used fan art as a jumping off point for male viera, so we can assume they did the same with female hrothgar. Most of the art I’ve seen of female hrothgar looks amazing and strikes a great balance between beefy and feminine. I’m really looking forward to seeing them, even if the most I’ll play one is making an alt.

Once the races are truly complete, I think they can really dig into expanding character creator. Especially with system revamps that are supposedly incoming. They said these will be the last races and I believe them. So the only thing to do after that is make them better.

[SturmChurro]

I want viera hair as much as anyone else but this isn’t it. We don’t even know what they will look like yet. There are a lot of people who enjoy beastial races, and even in my small circles of friends there are several people super pumped and ready to change into them if they do a good job with their design. Even if they probably won’t be as popular as kemonomimi races (beast races are never the most popular), they are still a worthy use of dev resources.

They used fan art as a jumping off point for male viera, so we can assume they did the same with female hrothgar. Most of the art I’ve seen of female hrothgar looks amazing and strikes a great balance between beefy and feminine. I’m really looking forward to seeing them, even if the most I’ll play one is making an alt.

Once the races are truly complete, I think they can really dig into expanding character creator. Especially with system revamps that are supposedly incoming. They said these will be the last races and I believe them. So the only thing to do after that is make them better.

A lot of the fan art I've seen shared around has them looking like brutes. I get that a couple people like that, but I don't think it's worth potentially pushing back things more of the playerbase want, were promised, and will actually enjoy. Male viera was the race that was actually heavily requested, female hrothgar is just a hanger-on. Male hrothgar already have enough trouble as is, with two hairstyles per face, no hats, and having to fantasia to even change to that second hairstyle.

I still also think male viera was released too early, they are inevitably just going to be as limited as female viera. What a waste. Even if female hrothgar look semi-okay as a beast race, if they are just as limited due to "unique heads" as male hrothgar, that's double the problems to not 'fix' later, as apparently male hrothgar unique heads was a design choice. We should have first got our female viera hairs, and male hrothgar updates, before these genders, in my opinion. Now everything is pushed back..

[BunniEclair]

A lot of the fan art I've seen shared around has them looking like brutes. I get that a couple people like that, but I don't think it's worth potentially pushing back things more of the playerbase want, were promised, and will actually enjoy. Male viera was the race that was actually heavily requested, female hrothgar is just a hanger-on. Male hrothgar already have enough trouble as is, with two hairstyles per face, no hats, and having to fantasia to even change to that second hairstyle.

I still think male viera was released too early, they are inevitably just going to be as limited as female viera. What a waste. Even if female hrothgar look semi-okay as a beast race, if they are just as limited due to "unique heads" as male hrothgar, that's double the problems to not 'fix' later, as apparently male hrothgar unique heads was a design choice. We should have first got our female viera hairs, and male hrothgar updates, before these genders, in my opinion. Now everything is pushed back..

To be honest I’m hoping they’ll use the next six months to solve some of those issues for the new races so that their counterparts can launch with a little less controversy. I don’t think hrothgar will ever be compatible with the hair system, but I could see them at least updating aesthetician so they can switch between racial hairs and I could also see them find a way to make hats work for them. Likewise, for viera, I could see them working us into the hair system in time for 6.0, especially given how normal the male hair looks compared to the female viera hair.

I get being impatient, we have every right to be after two years. But I don’t think it should come with dismissing femroth because we want/got ours. It might be a little overly optimistic but that they made developing the other genders such a priority even after we had all written it off as 7.0 or later really instilled some confidence in me that they will put in the effort for viera and hroth in 6.0 and beyond. Even if they don’t that’s on them, I see no reason to come into the hrothgar support thread and rain on their parade for differing tastes when hrothgar players aren’t to blame for any issues we have with SE’s decision making.

Here’s to hoping we all get what we want to some degree in 6.0. It’s a long wait but I have high hopes. Feel free to rub my nose in them if I’m wrong- I’ve been one of the angriest vieras on this forum for the past two years before changing my tune, lol.

[SturmChurro]

It might be a little overly optimistic but that they made developing the other genders such a priority even after we had all written it off as 7.0 or later really instilled some confidence in me that they will put in the effort for viera and hroth in 6.0 and beyond. Even if they don’t that’s on them, I see no reason to come into the hrothgar support thread and rain on their parade for differing tastes when hrothgar players aren’t to blame for any issues we have with SE’s decision making.

Here’s to hoping we all get what we want to some degree in 6.0. It’s a long wait but I have high hopes. Feel free to rub my nose in them if I’m wrong- I’ve been one of the angriest vieras on this forum for the past two years before changing my tune, lol.

I'm not raining on anyone's parade, I just don't think female hrothgar as brutes is a very helpful request even if one or two people might like them. If I recall correctly, they took into account male viera fan art for the creation of male viera as they are now. I'm hoping they don't take this stuff into account for femhroth. If they HAVE TO use femroe as a base, hopefully it's heavily modified. I am simply advocating for femhroth to actually look good, so more players find enjoyment in the product.

[BunniEclair]

I'm not raining on anyone's parade, I just don't think female hrothgar as brutes is a very helpful request even if one or two people might like them. If I recall correctly, they took into account male viera fan art for the creation of male viera as they are now. I'm hoping they don't take this stuff into account for femhroth. If they HAVE TO use femroe as a base, hopefully it's heavily modified. I am simply advocating for femhroth to actually look good, so more players find enjoyment in the product.

As someone pointed out, I think it’s fair to assume there’s a reason aside from sex appeal that Misija’s physical body changed when she took on the spirit of the queen. Also from the one stylized picture we have of them, they are clearly a bit shorter and slimmer than the femroe who is present. I don’t think they’ll make them hulking beefcakes. Most of the art I see for them has them more like sleek panthers and lionesses than muscle furries with boobs. Then again, attractiveness is sort of subjective. They’ll never be able to please everyone, as seen with the bunnyman height panic.

They’ll likely be decently muscular but not quite as much as femroe. I maintain they’ll probably be similar to femlander in build, going off of Misija and the mural.

[Divinemights]

Does this mean for next 3 years we are going to listen to players whining about female Hrothgar every day?

[BunniEclair]

Does this mean for next 3 years we are going to listen to players whining about female Hrothgar every day?

Who cares? If you don’t like it you can visit one of the other myriad of threads whining about estinien’s ponytail or how nobody knows how to play the game.

That being said I don’t see much whining in this thread or anywhere else. Just excitement and speculation, maybe a bit of disappointment they won’t come sooner.

Even if people were whining it’s infinitely preferable to people like you who whine about people whining with nothing of value to add to the conversation.

[Divinemights]

Who cares? If you don’t like it you can visit one of the other myriad of threads whining about estinien’s ponytail or how nobody knows how to play the game.

That being said I don’t see much whining in this thread or anywhere else. Just excitement and speculation, maybe a bit of disappointment they won’t come sooner.

Even if people were whining it’s infinitely preferable to people like you who whine about people whining with nothing of value to add to the conversation.

Yeah?
You apparently never seen entire first page occupied by topic about male viera, viera hairstyle, fix viera head before ,etc