Realization that I could safely quit at 6.0's completion just hit me and that sucks

[Khalithar]

Starting to get concerned about the extreme monetization of the playerbase. If it continues I will leave before getting invested in a new story.

I kind of see what you're getting at here.

But compared to other games the monetization isn't nearly as egregious so far. Unless they start making the cash shop accessible in game and start advertising it to us regularly I don't consider this game on par with SWTOR or WoW. I wonder if most new players even know there is a cash shop in this game because getting to the mog station store is, in my opinion, far more obscure than the Cartel Network in SWTOR or the button on your UI on WoW that brings up the cash shop.

[Roeshel]

Healer design doesn't make sense with encounter design.

FFXIV's healer design is the most engaging and fun to play.

[Roeshel]

healers getting completely destroyed

How were the healer classes destroyed? What's destroyed? They can't heal? I really don't understand.

[Clover_Blake]

Majority of the new mounts, minions and housing items added in the game are on the MogStation now.

Sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, but this comment is so inaccurate and blatantly untrue that I can only guess what the rest of the thread is like o_o

[Acece]

I'll probably drop ffxiv when we see if the healer gameplay is terrible or not. I could see a lot of good healers leaving the game when we see the job actions or at 6.0. I knew a lot of good healers that left in ShB, so I can only imagine how many would leave after the 2nd expac in a row where healers have the most boring gameplay. I might even pick up WoW again because I want to play healers so bad but I don't want to be bored out of my mind.
Can't comment really on dps or tank because I don't play tank and the only dps I play is sam and blm.

[Equitable_Remedy]

I checked, and the sky is not, in fact, falling.

[Aluja89]

That's still just a cooldown though lol. You press a button and take less damage. Also, that existed since around 2.2 or 2.3. Inner Beast was always a defensive CD, except before the war rework back when all it did was absorb hp.

What exactly are you trying to do here?

First you come and tell me you stopped playing tanks because of their design then you defend said design and on top of that you insult me then continue to misunderstand when I only used an example of what we had.

[Sathona]

Still trying to understand how SE is greedy with FFXIV, but i havent seen any reasonable arguement besides nostalgia which isnt exactly an arguement..

[E4EO]

I agree, but my problem is mostly with healers, tanks too a little, and if they aren't fixed I'm done with 14, as what's the point? Healer and Tank are equally my two fav roles, but healers are a complete failure and tanks are just DPS with dumbed down kits and simple aggro mechanics to handle, and story isn't enough to keep me engaged alone.

I aint gonna say why healers suck and tanks are in a tricky spot, cause everyone knows already, lack of things to do in downtime and homogenization. And DPS are fun yeah, funnest role to play, but only because of how lame healers are and how iffy tanks are.

And I know what you may need thinking, "what about that story you mentioned?" 14's story is pretty good, for a FF, and for MMO, least that's what people say, don't play MMO's besides 14. But story on it's own is never enough to keep me engaged with a game, either its gonna be solely gameplay or a split between both, but ultimately if gameplay sucks I'll get bored quick, but that's just me.

I also should mention that I'm just getting into other things, playing old FF's again, reading books, I just started getting into dinosaurs for the first time too, I never got engrossed with them in the late 90's and early 00's, and with all these things interesting me, and 14 slowly driving itself into a hole it may not be able to escape, then ill say again, why even bother?

There's tons of old FF's to play, bloody crapload of books to read, and lord knows there's plenty of dinosaur media to enjoy of all types. I need to spend what free time I have on things I genuinely enjoy after all.

TL DR: Healers being in a awful spot has left me feeling I'll be able to leave 14 for good too, I'f they ain't fixed. With other things that are interesting me nowadays too, it only compounds that feeling.

[Kyrj]

I will go out on a limb here, and guess that most if not all of your list are free to play games without a subscription cost or need to buy the base game.

This game charges a monthly fee and has many monthly options they charge for on top of that. They charge for the base game, they charge for each expansion and they charge for each platform you want to play on, They also add items to a premium store and charge for other in-game rewards that are attached to overpriced "merchandise" they peddle with in-game rewards to take advantage of FOMO and exclusivity.

If you have a good example of another MMO with a monetization program like that, I would love to know what it is.

Not to mention if you want to fix their lack of inventory space (that they refuse to fix) you need to pay for that as well. Go figure...