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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endariel View Post
    Backlash from whom?
    All the whiny players that threatened to cancel subscription if there was no male bunnies
    Sure there were overreactions from some players, but so far this thread seems to be mostly people who were opposed to Male Viera and it's pure whiny, bitter, ungrateful and toxic grumbling. I've never seen anything like it, barely a single positive reaction. Game communities have a bad habit of silencing themselves more than any developer, when a lot of players feel strongly about something the other half will turn on them and try to shut them up.

    I have absolutely zero interest in Viera or Hrothgar, but there certainly was demand for it and I'm happy for the fans that all their feedback paid off and have respect for the devs for listening to that feedback. No it won't cost us tons of content, the developers who work on designing races are not the same people making dungeons, raids or MSQ. I only see this as a positive and a sign of a decent development team.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endariel View Post
    Backlash from whom?
    All the whiny players that threatened to cancel subscription if there was no male bunnies, but still ended playing shb, and will still most likely stay on their catgirl even after 6.0?
    QFT. This guy gets it.
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  3. #33
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    Isn't it nice how the whiners get what they want when reasonable people ask politely and constructively and wait for years for nothing? What kind of precedent will this set?
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    On further thought....

    This now makes 14 HEADS for VII and Hrothgar.

    This DOUBLES the work it will take for them to put any hat on any of them.

    We are going to go from "hats are stupidly rare for them" to "THERE ARE NO HATS"

    This just makes life worse for every Vii and Hrothgar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Sure there were overreactions from some players, but so far this thread seems to be mostly people who were opposed to Male Viera and it's pure whiny, bitter, ungrateful and toxic grumbling. I've never seen anything like it, barely a single positive reaction. Game communities have a bad habit of silencing themselves more than any developer, when a lot of players feel strongly about something the other half will turn on them and try to shut them up.

    I have absolutely zero interest in Viera or Hrothgar, but there certainly was demand for it and I'm happy for the fans that all their feedback paid off and have respect for the devs for listening to that feedback. No it won't cost us tons of content, the developers who work on designing races are not the same people making dungeons, raids or MSQ. I only see this as a positive and a sign of a decent development team.
    Imagine if more people were educated in development, even the basics. /sweat
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aluja89 View Post
    Isn't it nice how the whiners get what they want when reasonable people ask politely and constructively and wait for years for nothing? What kind of precedent will this set?
    So because this is a subset of the overall population that was making the request and a smaller part of that subset went about the request in a vitriolic manner the whole group are whiners? Don't get me wrong, not defending the OP and their take away to the addition of male Viera, but basing the action of a few on an entire group is a bit disingenuous. It'd be about the same as holding Ultimate raiders accountable to MPK's behavior on these forums.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I have absolutely zero interest in Viera or Hrothgar, but there certainly was demand for it and I'm happy for the fans that all their feedback paid off and have respect for the devs for listening to that feedback. No it won't cost us tons of content, the developers who work on designing races are not the same people making dungeons, raids or MSQ. I only see this as a positive and a sign of a decent development team.
    To be fair, while I'm entirely indifferent to male Viera and female Hrothgar, this does likely mean the existing races won't see any updates or customization until 8.0 at the very least. Which is quite disappointing.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Sure there were overreactions from some players, but so far this thread seems to be mostly people who were opposed to Male Viera and it's pure whiny, bitter, ungrateful and toxic grumbling. I've never seen anything like it, barely a single positive reaction. Game communities have a bad habit of silencing themselves more than any developer, when a lot of players feel strongly about something the other half will turn on them and try to shut them up.
    Its funny that you said that. Me and one of my friends was talking about this. I told them when the announce viera and it was a gender lock race alot of people where up in arms about it. Heck i still remember one person even calling them homophobic for not adding them in. Or unsubbing.

    Glad they added them for those who wanted them though, it just takes time and it seems a lot of people do not have patience.
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    . No it won't cost us tons of content, the developers who work on designing races are not the same people making dungeons, raids or MSQ.
    No, not the MSQ or dungeons indeed. However it can potentially reduce an already low armor divercity from said dungeons. But we are already used to recycled content swapped for different classes, aren't we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuen View Post
    So because this is a subset of the overall population that was making the request and a smaller part of that subset went about the request in a vitriolic manner the whole group are whiners? Don't get me wrong, not defending the OP and their take away to the addition of male Viera, but basing the action of a few on an entire group is a bit disingenuous. It'd be about the same as holding Ultimate raiders accountable to MPK's behavior on these forums.
    Oh please, on which world did you(general you) not whine? On streams spamming "male viera when", the 1400+ page topic spamming with dumb takes on why they need to be in game and on top of all that the types that create these kinds of threads?
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