Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

[Penthea]

I must not see many max height male miqote. Most the ones I run into are pretty small. I thought the main reason people wanted male viera was to have a tall elegant male option that wasn’t elezen or Au Ra, not to create another version of male miqote. I remember people being upset because many people wanted female viera to be smaller or have a smaller version available. The argument was, these players that wanted smaller viera, should just play miqote because viera are meant to only be tall. After all that to have male viera be miqote size isn’t right or fair to the people who wanted smaller female viera.

I'm going to hazard a guess that a max height male viera is going to reach middle height of a female viera. So still noticeably shorter than female viera, and noticeably taller than male miqos.

[Yencat]

If this is true, there are going to be a lot of upset people.

There's nothing right now indicating they actually are shorter, for all we know they'll have the exact same height range as female Viera.

I also keep seeing posts about them being so much less muscular than female Viera but I don't see that at all, they're both slim.

[Penthea]

If this is true, there are going to be a lot of upset people.

Everyone I personally know so far is okay with this possibility.

Are you saying people will be unhappy that they're too tall or too short? I personally would be disappointed if they were within the same height range as male miqo, so if they do turn out at the height I guessed I'll be happy. I would be less so but still disappointed if they turn out to be the same height as female viera or taller. I like the idea of having a race in which the women at max height are noticeably taller than the tallest male counterpart.

As far as I'm aware this is the first time SE have shown male viera in not just this game but the FF series as a whole, so we really don't have a visual point of reference aside from guesses made by looking at the reveal video.

[BunniEclair]

No, I’m not upset they are short. I’m saying people who wanted smaller female viera were flamed on these forums. They were upset there wasn’t a smaller female version. Viera are tall, go play miqote. Now, if males get to be smaller than the female version, I guarantee people who wanted to be a smaller female version will be mad.

Let em be mad. The models look great and they don’t look too terribly small. I’ve seen height comparisons to female viera but we don’t know what size model they used in the video...but I’ll guess mid height.

I don’t think, given that Yoship was so focused on expanding choice and wanting to give something different, that he’d make the other kemonomimi a catboy clone.

[glitteringcosmos]

Let em be mad. The models look great and they don’t look too terribly small. I’ve seen height comparisons to female viera but we don’t know what size model they used in the video...but I’ll guess mid height.

I don’t think, given that Yoship was so focused on expanding choice and wanting to give something different, that he’d make the other kemonomimi a catboy clone.

Exactly. And literally every other race in the game has larger males than females (some almost comically so--looking at you Au Ra). Having one race with males smaller than females is a refreshing step away from typical masculine archetypes and just a change of pace in general from what we already have.

[Raikai]

No, I’m not upset they are short. I’m saying people who wanted smaller female viera were flamed on these forums. They were upset there wasn’t a smaller female version. Viera are tall, go play miqote. Now, if males get to be smaller than the female version, I guarantee people who wanted to be a smaller female version will be mad.

Honestly, every decision is bound to make a group unhappy... Let it be job design, aesthetics, etc. They could, however, have had a height difference between Rava and Veena Viera, but they didn't do that for when females were released