Can something be done about free loaders in the MSQ roulette?

[LaylaTsarra]

Yeah I have had problems with freeloaders with the MSQ but I think a trust option would be great

You won't get the xp from a trust. It'll just be for clears then. I think most running it now are doing it to level and certainly now for tokens for moogle. I've run it quite a bit and have had afk'ers but it's not been a chronic issue. I've seem more issues with people leaving Castrum cause they didn't get prae than having people go afk.

AFk is a problem too in alliance raids as well so it's not just main story roulette.

[NolChannel]

I'll say it again, set the Max iLevel to 50 or 55. Up the EXP rewards somewhat with the added challenge.

> New players will actually have an engaging, somewhat challenging dungeon to do at the end of ARR, and actually have to do boss mechanics. The current "Final Boss of ARR" is a disappointing joke - let's have it actually be a somewhat difficult thing to do.
> People who AFK will literally be obvious dead weight and people will no longer tolerate it.

Better new player engagement and better at weeding out leeches. Win-win.

[_Koneko_]

I'll say it again, set the Max iLevel to 50 or 55. Up the EXP rewards somewhat with the added challenge.

> New players will actually have an engaging, somewhat challenging dungeon to do at the end of ARR, and actually have to do boss mechanics. The current "Final Boss of ARR" is a disappointing joke - let's have it actually be a somewhat difficult thing to do.
> People who AFK will literally be obvious dead weight and people will no longer tolerate it.

Better new player engagement and better at weeding out leeches. Win-win.

never going to happen if you like challenge so much may i suggest world of borecraft? they cater to your playstyle more then ff 14

[ReynTime]

Freeloaders and enablers are the reason I stopped caring about the treasure event and MSQ roulette.
When I got to a run where only me and TWO PEOPLE were actually playing the pre-Nero parts that was the last straw for me.
A better design team would see this as a problem.

[Lanadra]

I think this is more a case of how the content is designed over players behaving in a certain way. If you make the MSQ scenes skippable, I highly doubt this would be as much of an issue.

They were made unskippable also for a reason. Yes, they were originally skippable. And guess what? If you wanted to enjoy your story finale.. you could kindly go fuck off and watch it in the inn room. SE didn't like that, so they changed it.

No. This is a request to have the content designed in a way that it doesn't make people go AFK. I don't get satisfaction from punishing anyone. I see a problem and would like that problem to be fixed by taking away the root of the problem. Instead of ignoring it or pretending it isn't a problem and that people who bring it up are complaining.

It's a problem and it's not fine to pretend it isn't. And the best way to fix it is to revamp those parts of the MSQ properly, as should have been done years ago.

This is another case of: They should. But they won't.

I agree they should, ideally making them into a solo instance, but we both know they won't.

[NolChannel]

never going to happen if you like challenge so much may i suggest world of borecraft? they cater to your playstyle more then ff 14

... Er, what kind of take is this? Are you saying that doing nothing in content is not only acceptable, its preferable? Gtfo lol.

[_Koneko_]

i'm not saying it is but you seem to think se would make adjustments to the content they will not
the primery reason is that its the most run content in the game and it's also required for the storyline
making it harder would backfire you know how the community react to harder content they avoid it that's why you constantly get crystal tower

[NolChannel]

i'm not saying it is but you seem to think se would make adjustments to the content they will not

The topic is "Can something be done". I answered the question. Never said it was realistic.

[Keramory]

To repeat what many said:

Vote Kick. If your group doesn't vote them out, they clearly didn't agree with you. Remember in those cases YOU are the one with the minority opinion, which is why the vote kick didn't succeed. Why should you have your way when clearly most don't agree with you about booting that particular individual?

Now for a solution SE can actually do about this if they agreed with you:

The reward EXP for these MSQ and roulettes would have to be split amongst the mobs/bosses and you only get that exp for participating in the fights. That would obviously eliminate the entire problem.

I don't think they'll ever do that though, nor do I think its needed. That occasional 1 person going semi AFK never really causes much disruptions in these mind numbingly easy levels anyway.

[AnotherPerson]

I'll say it again, set the Max iLevel to 50 or 55. Up the EXP rewards somewhat with the added challenge.

> New players will actually have an engaging, somewhat challenging dungeon to do at the end of ARR, and actually have to do boss mechanics. The current "Final Boss of ARR" is a disappointing joke - let's have it actually be a somewhat difficult thing to do.
> People who AFK will literally be obvious dead weight and people will no longer tolerate it.

Better new player engagement and better at weeding out leeches. Win-win.

As a MSQ Dungeon, ilvl at 55 will probably kill everyone who are utterly terrible or decent at their job, which goes against the idea that dungeons are meant to be easy. However, it definitely shouldn't be such a breeze that you can have half the party AFK and still be able to clear it with ease. Probably setting the max ilvl to be 90 to 100 would be better.