White Mage Flavor in 6.0

[Keramory]

I miss the original Conj/Thm dynamic as well, however the removal of the elemental wheel did make it a little mute.

While I'd be happy to see it come back, it's probably a little too late. Essentially we became so OP as Conjs that our magic just shoots out white glowy power of love from our finger tips. I don't know how you'd work in lore/setting wise that we somehow reverted back from that as we level up even further.

[Brandedblade]

I wish we can keep both the nature AND light magics, which brings me to Presence of Mind. What if PoM effect isn't only about decreasing GCD but also turning Stone IV & Aero II into Glare & Dia in addition to upgraded potencies under its duration?

Having Nature spells by default that upgrade into Holy spells during a cooldown is honestly one of my favorite of the design concepts i keep seeing here in regards to White Mage.

[Irenia]

Having Nature spells by default that upgrade into Holy spells during a cooldown is honestly one of my favorite of the design concepts i keep seeing here in regards to White Mage.

Where have you seen that? I've had similar things plop around in my head for awhile O.o

[Brandedblade]

Where have you seen that? I've had similar things plop around in my head for awhile O.o

I recall someone bringing up the concept right around the shadowlands launch when the initial wave of healer panic occurred.

[ty_taurus]

Personally, I also feel that the loss of the earth and wind focus does feel like a loss of something that helped give XIV's WHM more of it's own identity while still being very true to the traditional role in the Final Fantasy series. It was a shame that water was always such a neglected element, and no, I never considered the vaguely watery animations of actions like benison and asylum as an adequate representation of the water element.

That said, I also don't hate the holy focus of Glare and Dia and feel like it does make sense as a natural progression of the WHM, and what I think helps retain the WHM's nature aesthetic is its focus on flowers in the afflatus spells. In my mind, I feel like using flowers as a symbol of the job makes a lot of sense as it can be seen as the combination of earth, wind, and water: earth being the soil you plant the seed in, water to grow the seed, and wind to spread more seeds.

I believe hoping for the raw elements to return as they were prior to Shadowbringers is a fruitless conversation. I think a more plausible solution at this point would be to expand upon WHM's floral motif. Turn that up to 11. Make the WHM a hardcore holy flower mage. I think that would do really well at retaining WHM's style and aesthetic.

[Irenia]

I believe hoping for the raw elements to return as they were prior to Shadowbringers is a fruitless conversation. I think a more plausible solution at this point would be to expand upon WHM's floral motif. Turn that up to 11. Make the WHM a hardcore holy flower mage. I think that would do really well at retaining WHM's style and aesthetic.

If they could make the spells as satisfying as stone and aero series I'd be down to try it at least.

Glare and Dia feel like hitting with tissue paper in comparison.

[Raminax]

I wish that they'd change the black lilies into white lilies, for starters. We're all about the white and red, not black and red. Who even pitched that idea? ;_;

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

It would have to end up being Great Stone or Ancient Stone, or something of the like, as there are no suffixes greater than "Ja", as far as I know. That may have been the reason Stoneja turned into Glare upon its 4th upgrade. BLM will also inevitably come to the same impasse and could end up getting Void Fire, Void Blizzard and Void Thunder as upgrades to Firaja (Fire 4), Blizzaja (Blizzard) and Thundaga (Thunder 3, as Thundaja/Thunder 4 is too new of an animation to replace too soon) in endwalker, or completely new spells, or a complete rework.

[Brandedblade]

It would have to end up being Great Stone or Ancient Stone, or something of the like, as there are no suffixes greater than "Ja", as far as I know. That may have been the reason Stoneja turned into Glare upon its 4th upgrade. BLM will also inevitably come to the same impasse and could end up getting Void Fire, Void Blizzard and Void Thunder as upgrades to Firaja (Fire 4), Blizzaja (Blizzard) and Thundaga (Thunder 3, as Thundaja/Thunder 4 is too new of an animation to replace too soon) in endwalker, or completely new spells, or a complete rework.

We could've easily upgrade to Quake -> Quake II -> etc and Tornado -> Tornado II -> etc. as well.

[AutumnsHollow]

No I want more holy magic not less.