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    The problem is with platforms like Discord which are outside of SE and the game, where people can and do say whatever and there's nothing GMs can do.

    I still don't understand why you can blacklist someone and then get paired up with them in matchmaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    The problem is with platforms like Discord which are outside of SE and the game, where people can and do say whatever and there's nothing GMs can do.

    I still don't understand why you can blacklist someone and then get paired up with them in matchmaking.
    As we have seen, people have been punished including up to a ban for things said and done on twitch. So why not other social platforms?
    And why cant we provide the Hours upon hours of recorded streams on twitch to get these players punished?

    And this is Ranked PvP, you cant make a system where blacklisting would take a player out of your queue.
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    Last edited by Rueian; 05-14-2021 at 02:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueian View Post
    As we have seen, people have been punished including up to a ban for things said and done on twitch. So why not other social platforms?
    And why cant we provide the Hours upon hours of recorded streams on twitch to get these players punished?

    And this is Ranked PvP, you cant make a system where blacklisting would take a player out of your queue.
    Oh that's interesting... I didn't know that doing something on Twitch could get you banned in FFXIV. I don't use twitch anyway so it doesn't affect me but that's curious that Twitch would be grounds for termination and Discord wouldn't. My only guess would be because it's harder to fake video than create a username in Discord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    Oh that's interesting... I didn't know that doing something on Twitch could get you banned in FFXIV. I don't use twitch anyway so it doesn't affect me but that's curious that Twitch would be grounds for termination and Discord wouldn't. My only guess would be because it's harder to fake video than create a username in Discord.
    There have been several streamers getting banned for their actions on stream and not 'in game', but square will not accept our twitch clips of people harassing/griefing
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    Some people are intellectually less gifted so why get upset knowing they don't even understand what the weight of their words? Just accept the fact that you may just have a possibly dumb or ignorant person in front of you. Your reactions won't touch them because if they don't even understand why you don't treat people the way they do, do you really think your words to make it stop even matter? You are literally talking to a rock here...

    Just ignore them as the "smarter" person that obviously won't get upset about toddler behaviour... instead feel proud you aren't like that... unless you take it personal and let it offend you in which case you need to grow up (sorry if this sounds harsh, but the hard reality is that maybe you care too much when you shouldn't).
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    Last edited by SXTC; 08-24-2021 at 11:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SXTC View Post
    Some people are intellectually less gifted so why get upset knowing they don't even understand what the weight of their words? Just accept the fact that you may just have a possibly dumb or ignorant person in front of you. Your reactions won't touch them because if they don't even understand why you don't treat people the way they do, do you really think your words to make it stop even matter? You are literally talking to a rock here...

    Just ignore them as the "smarter" person that obviously won't get upset about toddler behaviour... instead feel proud you aren't like that... unless you take it personal and let it offend you in which case you need to grow up (sorry if this sounds harsh, but the hard reality is that maybe you care too much when you shouldn't).
    But nobody here is that way, so we're not talking to rocks -- we're talking to GMs and possibly developers who need to be made aware of a situation that has been festering for years now. You've been here about as long as I have... I'm sure you've seen the countless threads in the general chat in the past clamoring for Viera, Blue Mage, then MALE viera even after YoshiP said "absolutely no more." But look? Here we are with viera, blue mage and male viera coming in Endwalker.

    Even when the devs told us "this isn't a problem" (RMT on NA servers), and they got to see just how bad it was, that spurred them into action (more is needed, but at least it's something).

    Or when they said "you're playing it wrong"(machinist in heavensward), the players said "omgno we hate this" and they reworked it.

    Our input matters. It might not always go the way we want, but it does matter.
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