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  1. #11
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    Ftail's Avatar
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm not so sure. In the amount of time it takes to do Prae, you could do 3 Rabanastre and come out with 10 more tomestones.
    A lot of people would rather do prae because you don’t really have to look at your screen much to do it. Other content doesn’t let you borderline AFK through it even if it’s better.
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  2. #12
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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm not so sure. In the amount of time it takes to do Prae, you could do 3 Rabanastre and come out with 10 more tomestones.
    You think people who want others to do the content for them are going to stand around and do the Hashbrown fight properly?
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  3. #13
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    You think people who want others to do the content for them are going to stand around and do the Hashbrown fight properly?
    The afk fight has a higher chance of getting yourself kicked, at which point you've spent 30+ minutes for nothing. They'd be fools for trying to do it...which of course means they will.
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  4. #14
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    Tura Uralaq
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Set Max ILvl to 55.
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  5. #15
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I wish kicking was a good solution to this problem;

    However, in my experience, occasionally when an AFK gets called out some people see it as an opportunity to virtue signal and will vehemently defend the person who is AFKing. A couple of interactions like that were what made me stop running that roulette altogether.

    SE has built methods of measuring contribution into the game which they use in some encounters. They ought to tie roulette rewards to a minimum contribution check at the end of the instance.
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  6. #16
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    Y'dyalani Rhus
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Because of how prae runs your pretty much in combat from the first pull until the second ultima fight. And if they’re quick or cheese the cs and pull you can make it almost impossible to get a vote kick in there. Especially if you talk about it and they know your trying.
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  7. #17
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    This will only get worse starting Friday with the moogle tome event. Tons more people are going to be flooding that roulette to get the larger amount of tomes.
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  8. #18
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    Mykll Valiant
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 93
    Maybe those Free Loaders should join their own.... Free Company? Eh? Eh? See myself out.
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  9. #19
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    Volke Volke
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post
    I wish kicking was a good solution to this problem;

    However, in my experience, occasionally when an AFK gets called out some people see it as an opportunity to virtue signal and will vehemently defend the person who is AFKing. A couple of interactions like that were what made me stop running that roulette altogether.

    SE has built methods of measuring contribution into the game which they use in some encounters. They ought to tie roulette rewards to a minimum contribution check at the end of the instance.
    This, so much. My last few battle classes, I just didn't do MSQ roulette runs. I think I'm unlucky, because I was consistently getting leeches. I highly dislike other people piggybacking off my work, so I'd always call them out. The most common response I got was "dude it's just msq"/"it's easy content". Idgaf how easy it is, people not playing makes it take longer and is complete bs. What if all 8 of us AFK? I can remember 2 times where the kick actually went through. Every other time, it fails because of the aforementioned excuses.

    The most I have had AFK was 4 party members in prae, all from the same server. I pointed out how they were leeching and how we should kick them, to which I was threatened with reports for "calling them leeches" and told how "it's easy content anyway". That was my last experience of msq roulette. A big issue of the ffxiv community is coddling/enabling bad play, or even no play at all. I haven't played any other game where people will actively defend leeching for people they don't even know.
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  10. #20
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Can something be done about free loaders in the MSQ roulette?
    Yeah, called vote kick them.

    Though, I'd say what is a freeloader in this instance, afk whole dungeon or had to afk 5 minutes cause something came up. I mean we're talking MSQ roulette here and 1 person go afk couple minutes or little bit longer isn't gonna hold back the group, that's including if its a healer or tank.
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