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  1. #421
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    SomeRandomHuman's Avatar
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    Tabi Fox
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verendal View Post
    RE:Free speech.

    1:That's a defense against *government* retribution and it doesn't apply to everything, for example you start yelling threats at people, especially government officials, you will VERY swiftly find out that no, it is not 'say whatever you want without consequence'. You still have responsibilities and limitations to rights, alongside those rights.
    2:SE is a private company, and terms of service exist. You agreed to them. They have the right to refuse you service if you refuse to follow their rules. Yes, there are rules they can't make, IE, can't legally exclude by race/gender.
    3:There is legal precedent, in the US court system, for 'fighting words'. "Fighting words are, as first defined by the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) in Chaplinsky v New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), words which "by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace." The interpretations and legal definitions vary over time and from region to region, but basically if you start speaking to someone in a way clearly intended to anger them into a fight...You can be found legally to have 'struck first' making their actions self-defense.
    4:When you're on the servers, even on these forums, you're on their private property. Not a public place, they quite literally own the servers and the data legally.

    Now, for the final point you all seem to be ignoring.
    5:SQUARE ENIX IS A JAPANESE COMPANY. NOT A UNITED STATES ONE. They operate in the US but are not, primarily, a US company. This influences a great many of their components of terms of service, due to privacy, copyright and data related laws in multiple nations applying to them...but it also amplifies point 4.
    They are a Japanese company yes. No one is refuting that. The NA servers are still subject to US policies since they're not based on the Japanese Embassy. It just so happens that more than a few general rules of thumb are very similar if not the same in both countries.
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  2. #422
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    Considering what we currently know: SE has done absolutely nothing. They can at least make a statement that they are aware of the situation and are looking into it. But as is the only thing we see is their inaction.
    From what I've heard, this thread was fuel for their fire. I'd imagine it'd get so much worse if SE itself gave them the attention they clearly want. I want to see the person in question banned completely, but I'm guessing it's a lot more complicated than we think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  3. #423
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    SerenityChiba's Avatar
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    Usagi Chiba
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    Whether this thread was made or not, he still would keep doing what he's doing. He was doing it for months before the thread was even made.
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    "Look to those, who've walked before, to lead those who walk after."

  4. #424
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    SerenityChiba's Avatar
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    Usagi Chiba
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    Adamantoise
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    He's Back

    With his usual NN trans/homophobic, racial spam, at 23:28 EST 05/10/2021
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    "Look to those, who've walked before, to lead those who walk after."

  5. #425
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    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
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    Mother Vain
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    One of our guild members have had constant harassment over the past 3 months.

    He's reported the issue at least 10 times already and provided us with screenshots. It's a never-ending barrage of hateful messages and homophobic slurs.

    Why are these issues not being resolved? What needs to change?
    (1)

  6. #426
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    Merhouse Vanhouten
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    Hyperion
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    clearly the solution is to continue to react to everything he does
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  7. #427
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merhouse View Post
    clearly the solution is to continue to react to everything he does
    Like how people keep reacting to everything you post in your thread where you want to make a witch hunting linkshell?
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  8. #428
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    Like how people keep reacting to everything you post in your thread where you want to make a witch hunting linkshell?
    no thats an actual debate and should be discussed
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  9. #429
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    One of our guild members have had constant harassment over the past 3 months.

    He's reported the issue at least 10 times already and provided us with screenshots. It's a never-ending barrage of hateful messages and homophobic slurs.

    Why are these issues not being resolved? What needs to change?
    All they can do is report and just try not to let the hateful comments get to them, if they cannot they maybe it is time for them to take a break from the game. Sadly this issue is out of out hands as a community.
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  10. #430
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    Sol Vela
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 14
    at some point do you think this person ever gon have something better to do with their life or is it going to be like the year 2042 with them still nuking a mmo new player help chat with insane narcissistic injury drivel

    like its so much hustle put into this okay here i am, barely can work up the effort to button a shirt correctly most days, oh but this fella's up at the crack of noon havin himself a brisk cup of coffee w/ monster energy and going welp time to register this week's alts and put in my 40 hours of insane trolling, lets get this bread [maniacal typing sounds]
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