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    MSQ is integral to the FFXIV experience
    This, i believe is the key element.

    Ive done it two or three times, and in all truth even though I have, there are still tiny gems or nuggets or instances or events I havent done fully, or see new things on the way.

    No spoilers, but there have been tiny tweaks all over the place, i tripped over one at the start to Heavensward and was "wait, what, that wasnt there before"......the devs are making small changes, I wont call them easter eggs because that doesnt fit the concept, but small quality of life and nuances have been added and we havent been told...they want us to find them.

    The one I saw had me laughing in sheer delight, the smaller details make all the difference.

    I DO understand and accept that for many, a skip is a good idea for their own needs..but to be honest, in my estimation, by doing so you miss those tiny changes in the process.

    Each has to make their own decision, I wont ever dispute that, just to me, its sad as you actually DO miss out on things you may never have seen before, or have been added along the way. One of the reasons I LOVE FF 14, that these tiny surprises are scattered all over and it makes a world of difference, its a labour of love in so many ways.

    Each of us plays as we wish, with all due respect to my FF 14 colleagues, the skip does make it easier to get into latest content..at the same time ( and this is just my feeling ) people miss out on the work the artists and devs and writers have taken such pains to create..all for us to enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    This, i believe is the key element.

    Ive done it two or three times, and in all truth even though I have, there are still tiny gems or nuggets or instances or events I havent done fully, or see new things on the way.

    No spoilers, but there have been tiny tweaks all over the place, i tripped over one at the start to Heavensward and was "wait, what, that wasnt there before"......the devs are making small changes, I wont call them easter eggs because that doesnt fit the concept, but small quality of life and nuances have been added and we havent been told...they want us to find them.

    The one I saw had me laughing in sheer delight, the smaller details make all the difference.

    I DO understand and accept that for many, a skip is a good idea for their own needs..but to be honest, in my estimation, by doing so you miss those tiny changes in the process.

    Each has to make their own decision, I wont ever dispute that, just to me, its sad as you actually DO miss out on things you may never have seen before, or have been added along the way. One of the reasons I LOVE FF 14, that these tiny surprises are scattered all over and it makes a world of difference, its a labour of love in so many ways.

    Each of us plays as we wish, with all due respect to my FF 14 colleagues, the skip does make it easier to get into latest content..at the same time ( and this is just my feeling ) people miss out on the work the artists and devs and writers have taken such pains to create..all for us to enjoy.
    People who don't want to do the story already skip these details in the first place by skipping cutscenes and rushing through dialogue

    Tbh that argument of people missing out can be made for literally any content the game has to offer, I'm pretty sure Savage/Ultimate fights take more work than the MSQ to program yet they aren't and shouldn't be mandatory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    People who don't want to do the story already skip these details in the first place by skipping cutscenes and rushing through dialogue

    Tbh that argument of people missing out can be made for literally any content the game has to offer, I'm pretty sure Savage/Ultimate fights take more work than the MSQ to program yet they aren't and shouldn't be mandatory.
    So basically the solution is alreay in game. Either skip the cutscenes or buy a skip potion. Also Savage and Ultimate arent mandatory because they are not the main part of the game. Which is exactly what others said: MSQ is one of the if not the biggest point of this MMO. The team cares so much about story telling that every part of it, even things like Eureka have a story to it. Ultimate and savage are just there for the people that enjoy it. Just like gathering or crafting. None of those things are really mandatory either.

    And its not as easy as to just make the story optional. Nearly every dungeon and trial is connected to the story. Do you just want to be able to unlock them without having any clue on whats going on? No reason to be there? Just so that you can run through a dungeon or do a trial? Or is this about reaching the endgame faster?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommara View Post

    I actually have most fun crafting and gathering, but the latter can't get into zones until my highest level adventurer toon can. A huge step backwards from Everquest2 and other MMO's I've played. And is why I have been spending time in No Man's Sky instead, and Ark before that.
    As someone that also is more into the crafting and gathering part of the game I do understand your frustration. But the zones are also deeply connected to the story itself. It wont make sense to gather at Azys Lla if you had not found it first in the story. Maybe Everquest2 simply had it not that way and that is fine.

    Also NMS and Ark (games I also quite like) are no MMO. They are bascially sandbox games.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 05-11-2021 at 09:42 PM.