I keep reading all these threads on how there are so MANY bad players... where? While I don't do savage/ultimate and rarely do EX, I have not once run into a BOT in a dungeon or raid that I know of, and rarely see someone super horrible at the job they choose to play. I'm on the Mos Eisley of Data Centers too, I don't even seem to run into really rude or toxic players either. Most runs tend to be fairly quiet, everyone saying hi, getting down to the business of running the dungeon/raid.. maybe someone saying oh hey, I'm looking for X piece of gear, if none of you need it, could you let me have it... then a thank you, or gg or something when it's done. If I've had an exceptionally bad time zigging when I should zag ::glowers at Red Girl and her inflorescence or however it's spelled:: I usually apologize to the healers before they leave. I've had some spectacularly bad times with dying especially in the nier raids, not once has anyone been nasty to me about it. So.. where is all this elitism/toxicity that everyone is so concerned about?