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  1. #421
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yeah, going back and remodeling headgear? That's probably a no go, I think we just have to hope more headgear is made wearable (rather displayable) in the future for hroth/viera.. They should at least make the artifact headpieces work for them... Also, for hairstyles and hrothgar heads sooner than later.. since it's already been later..
    Maybe they've taken a third option here? To where they've tweaked how the Viera/Hrothgar head models work in a way to where they no longer need to adjust old helms, because come EW the update will upgrade the head models to where it's no longer an issue? That's what I hope for at least, since that would probably take the least amount of work.
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  2. #422
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Maybe they've taken a third option here? To where they've tweaked how the Viera/Hrothgar head models work in a way to where they no longer need to adjust old helms, because come EW the update will upgrade the head models to where it's no longer an issue? That's what I hope for at least, since that would probably take the least amount of work.
    I do recall something like this, when Yoshida was talking about the graphical upgrade (?) in an interview, but that wouldn't happen for quite awhile. Might even take a couple expansions. Unless they have something up their sleeve, I think we are going to be seeing more of the same for viera/hrothgar, unfortunately. I'm trying to keep my hopes tempered, even thinking about just new hairstyles for viera, leaves me thinking I'm going to be disappointed come fan fest.
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  3. #423
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    MorionQ's Avatar
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    Mimi Bellerose
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Y’all with Fantasia pain ... lol, I’ve done it so much for YEARS my FC friends finally staged an intervention. I’m not... I’m not joking. That’s honestly why I’m still Highlander despite wanting to be a bun again.

    On tweaking the models, that’s actually way MORE work than just adding a few new hair styles just because of the established complexity of the faces. It wpuld be far smarter to just design future gear with all models more often in mind for compatibility.
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  4. #424
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    LuciaMirain's Avatar
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    Erzulie One
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 100
    One week left to disappointment, I think. I really hope I am wrong though. I would LOVE for them to come out and say that the two races are getting an upgrade of any kind.
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  5. #425
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    flipwizardmagoo's Avatar
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    Luc Belaire
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    Bumping to say that I’m so glad that Zepla made that video. It’s everything we’ve all been saying for so long. I feel a little hopeless that anything will ever come of this, but a tiny part of me is still hoping SE does what will make a big part of the community genuinely happy. I’ll have so much more respect for them, which is something I desperately want.
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  6. #426
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    LisSquid's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by flipwizardmagoo View Post
    Bumping to say that I’m so glad that Zepla made that video. It’s everything we’ve all been saying for so long. I feel a little hopeless that anything will ever come of this, but a tiny part of me is still hoping SE does what will make a big part of the community genuinely happy. I’ll have so much more respect for them, which is something I desperately want.
    Total pipe dream, but I'm almost hoping that we heard so little for so long because they were working out how to fix Hrothgar.
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  7. #427
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    Akimori's Avatar
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Since I dont play with the aesthetician as much as a hrothgar (for obvious reasons), I decided to try it anyway today and found that I could change my patterns via that NPC?......I can....change my patterns (stripes, spots, nothing, etc) via the aesthetician, but....not my hairstyle.....

    .....What?
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  8. #428
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    Feiya Harlow
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    Odin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Akimori View Post
    Since I dont play with the aesthetician as much as a hrothgar (for obvious reasons), I decided to try it anyway today and found that I could change my patterns via that NPC?......I can....change my patterns (stripes, spots, nothing, etc) via the aesthetician, but....not my hairstyle.....

    .....What?
    Yeah it seems like the patterns are in the spot hairstyles would normally go, so you can freely change those.

    They either couldn't work out how to modify all 8 hairstyles to work for every head, or they didn't think it was necessary and patterns would be enough "unique customization" to justify it.

    Like LisSquid said, hopefully the reason it's taking so long is because they've heard the feedback and are working on fixing that. But the fact they even though it was a good idea to release them like that in the first place isn't very encouraging.
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  10. #429
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    Akimori's Avatar
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    Mihovil Jollasch
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    Yeah it seems like the patterns are in the spot hairstyles would normally go, so you can freely change those.

    They either couldn't work out how to modify all 8 hairstyles to work for every head, or they didn't think it was necessary and patterns would be enough "unique customization" to justify it.

    Like LisSquid said, hopefully the reason it's taking so long is because they've heard the feedback and are working on fixing that. But the fact they even though it was a good idea to release them like that in the first place isn't very encouraging.
    with only like 5 patterns, thats hardly "unique customization" haha. Im going to assume its the former, but I do remember thenm showing off hroth for the first time and it had a hroth that was using the couerl face, but had the runar hairstyle attached to it, so I dont even know anymore

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  11. #430
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    This is still the most disappointing part of this expansion for me. I liked a lot of things about ShB, loved the story, love dancer, etc. ... I have a few complaints, and there were some weaker points, but on the whole I enjoyed it.

    Viera and Hrothgar, though? Extremely disappointing execution. Disappointing enough that I stopped playing my Viera, even though I absolutely love them - I love their look, I love their animations, I love how they look in some of my favorite sets, and I even like several of the hairstyles they do have. I used to hate playing tall characters, but now I love that too because of them. But that little twinge of disappointment every time I found a new hat I couldn't see, or when SE added a new hairstyle that I couldn't wear, eventually added up and drove me off of playing them. And Hrothgar have it worse, imo. Probably bad to say, but I'm glad I don't really like them anyway. x.x

    I swapped off Viera ages ago, and it's only gotten easier to resist the temptation to switch back. I want to be optimistic, but if they don't get any updates in 6.0, I'll probably just write them off my list for good.
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