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  1. #351
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    Crack Theory: He means his sister, who coincidentally is Venat for some reason and he wants to see the whole world burn to undo Hydaelyn to 'save' her...

    ... then again, Fandaniel emphasises that he isn't a stuck in the past as the other Ascians, indicating he has no ties to the old world.

    Edit: Haha, I did! But it feels... strange and I might just revert to the former haircut. It's more Rica.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Crack Theory: He means his sister, who coincidentally is Venat for some reason and he wants to see the whole world burn to undo Hydaelyn to 'save' her...
    I don't see how Fandaniel would need to burn the world or amass a lot of aether or faith to retrieve Venat. IIRC Hydaelyn should be capable of similar feats as Zodiark (either because Hydaelyn was also summoned using Lahabrea's blueprint for Zodiark, or because Hydaelyen replaced Zodiark as the heart of the star). If Zodiark could regurgitate Elidibus' soul (or create a familar/primal of Elidibus) Hydaelyn should theoretically be able to do so the same. Not that she might need to regurgitate Venat's soul, since it's possible that the only thing left of Hydaelyn IS Venat. Over the course of the game, Hydaelyn has expended her power (over thousands of years fighting the Ascians, then to save the WoL from Ultima, and then saving Minfillia, and then stopping the complete annihilation of the First). It is possible that Hydaelyn may have expended nearly all of the aether from the souls sacrificed to her that the soul/aether of Venat might be the only thing left, so in essence Hydaelyn is Venat with no other thoughts floating around in her head. In which case, it's only a matter of getting Venat out from inside the planet back to the surface.

    Except the towers don't seem to have been created for doing something inside the planet or retrieving Venat. They seem to be designed to amass faith and/or aether to empower or create something (maybe a bridge to the moon, or to reconstruct Zodiark, or to open up Zodiark so that Zenos can possess it, etc). Maybe Fandaniel is trying to destroy Zodiark, or hijack Zodiark, or free Zodiark, but it seems that the towers designed to revolve around Zodiark up on the moon, not Hydaelyn who is down inside the planet.
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    Fandaniel and his...

    …other friend from Gaius's belt
    …death cult / reforged Lambs of Dalamud
    …complete collection of limited edition purple primals
    …half-blood prince
    …uninvited Twitter inamorata
    …collection of variably cool jackets
    …free trial the critically acclai--

    Though Hershey said "…shoebill" and now my darksteelfoil hat is on
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    Fandaniel and his... half-monkey brother?
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    Someone on the FFXIV reddit pointed this out

    "Correcting your assumption about a male word in French. "son" can be used for female words, for example "son amie" (his female friend)."

    Am I crazy for thinking this "Female Friend" could be Anima?

    EDIT:
    If the implications in French are that they are referring to a female friend Anima could fit the bill (also a little too on the nose) but it's also likely the translators were not told the censored word and Ishikawa wrote "???" on her actual note card
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    Now that you mention it, Anima (or rather, the originating Fayth) in FFX was Seymour's mother, wasn't she? This is going to be "Mommy Issues: the Expac," isn't it?
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  7. #357
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    Don't focus on the female friend, it was just a word used as an example to show that son (meaning 'his' as well) can also refer to a female word if that one starts with a vowel.

    The word friend comes from 'amie' which they merely used as an example to show I'm wrong. Nothing about a friend is actually in the French text.

    And son can still refer to male as well, we just don't know yet.
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  8. #358
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Don't focus on the female friend, it was just a word used as an example to show that son (meaning 'his' as well) can also refer to a female word if that one starts with a vowel.

    The word friend comes from 'amie' which they merely used as an example to show I'm wrong. Nothing about a friend is actually in the French text.

    And son can still refer to male as well, we just don't know yet.
    Makes a lot of sense. if i'm not wrong "sa" and "son" are essentially synonyms for each other one is just feminine while the other is masculine? I'm starting to think maybe those question marks were actually on the card :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiraishinNoJutsu View Post
    Makes a lot of sense. if i'm not wrong "sa" and "son" are essentially synonyms for each other one is just feminine while the other is masculine? I'm starting to think maybe those question marks were actually on the card :P
    My French is rusty, but basically it's like 'a' and 'an' in English. You use the female-gendered pronoun unless there's a vowel conflict.

    The question marks were almost certainly on the card, though. She's not Naoki "PR didn't approve this comment" Yoshida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Now that you mention it, Anima (or rather, the originating Fayth) in FFX was Seymour's mother, wasn't she? This is going to be "Mommy Issues: the Expac," isn't it?
    Summons in X have a lot of setting-specific metaphysics attached to them, but you are correct on both counts. (Aeons are dreams of the Fayth, with whom summoners need a contract to summon their associated aeon. Though Anima as an aeon never speaks, her Fayth does so to exposit Seymour's backstory and forge a contract with Yuna, and Seymour addresses Anima as if she were his mother if you summon her against Seymour Omnis.)

    The idea of Anima being linked to Fandaniel was fielded before, though I brushed it off due to his and Seymour's dispositions being wildly different. Knowing there's a character related to Fandaniel whose name was important enough to be redacted, though, now I can't help but wonder...
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