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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    Tier 8 Materias are so cheap and easy to obtain I don't even understand why would you refuse to meld. Discord Hunts exist calling every Data Centre a train run, congrats you got all the materias you want in less than a day. It's common courtesy to do your best on your job you play than gimping the team further because "too lazy". Melded crit vs Non Melded crit DPS the damage difference is huge.
    The issue with materia is the same its always been. Gear just doesn't last long enough to justify melding it for most people...

    Melding gear your just going to throw away in the next week or so is basically seen as throwing money down the drain...

    And while money itself is pretty easy to get. That shiny glamour you may want to buy is going to be expensive stuff. Hell a glamour hairstyle is still selling for 12 million...

    And as everybody frequently says
    Glamour is the true endgame.

    If gear had a viable lifespan people would be more willing to invest in it.. or hell even if the melds carried over augments..

    Melded your 520 cryptbunkers. But then augment it to 530. Bye materia...

    Melded your 510 crafted. Then augment it to 520 bye materia...

    Makes melding a waste of time and money for many people.

    Also if your remotely upto date on gear you already overpower theblatest content anyway.. Whats the ireq for the newest alliance raid 495? When everyone is sporting 510-520 and already overpowering by 20-25 I levels even on day 1
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    Last edited by Dzian; 05-06-2021 at 05:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post

    If gear had a viable lifespan people would be more willing to invest in it.. or he'll even if the melds carried over augments..

    Melded your 520 cryptbunkers. But then augment it to 530. Bye materia...

    Melded your 510 crafted. Then augment it to 520 bye materia...

    Makes melding a waste of time and money for many people.

    Also if your remotely upto date on gear you already overpower theblatest content anyway.. whats the ireq for the newest alliance raid 495? When everyone is sporting 510-520 and already overpowering by 20-25 I levels even on day 1
    1. You can very easily get materia via drops and stellaclusters, and even from wearing your gear for 5 seconds and letting it spiritbond.

    2. You can extract the materia from your gear when you're ready to chunk and/or upgrade it. Yes there's the chance that it will break of course, I will not refute that, but the fact is you still have a decent chance of salvaging the materia and holding on to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    1. You can very easily get materia via drops and stellaclusters, and even from wearing your gear for 5 seconds and letting it spiritbond.

    2. You can extract the materia from your gear when you're ready to chunk and/or upgrade it. Yes there's the chance that it will break of course, I will not refute that, but the fact is you still have a decent chance of salvaging the materia and holding on to it.
    think its 40% chance of success when retrieving top materia... so thats still a 60% chance of throwing money down the drain.... even if you get it free it still has a resale value on the market boards... so the question becomes meld it. or use the money for that shiny glamour..

    i meld most of my stuff but at the same time im realistic and its easy to understand why so many people just don't bother...

    there also the added reason of no discernable difference... if you melded 500 crit onto your gear. without using a third party tool you wouldnt notice it making the slightest difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    The issue with materia is the same its always been. Gear just doesn't last long enough to justify melding it for most people...

    Melding gear your just going to throw away in the next week or so is basically seen as throwing money down the drain...
    At current prices, fully melding a set of gear in grade VIII materia (18 total materia) will only cost about 90-100k total. Doing a set of daily roulettes (all except MSQ) with the Adventure in Need will already give you 47755 gil + 2 stellaclusters. And that's excluding the gil reward from the daily first completion of those roulettes. It's unlikely for you to replace entire sets of i510/i520 gear every single week, so any week following the initial full melding will usually result in grabbing 1-4 materia (around 5-20k).

    Fully melding your gear like that will give you an additional 1080 secondary stats. In comparison, an i520 weapon will give you 876 secondary stats.

    Is it needed? Not really, but if you're capable of making enough gil to buy a hairstyle that's worth 12 mil, an extra 90-100k shouldn't be too big of a deal.
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