Market feels broken. I'm curious why -- and does this diminish crafting?

[Chaletamale]

My favorite are the people that undercut infinitely until theres no price left and theres no purpose in even selling the item anymore because theres no profit to be made. Thats literally what this game has become now. Constantly finding a new item before some idiots undercut it to death and drop it to 1-10 gil so that noone can make any money anymore.

This game has literally handled its economy worse than any game ive ever seen. Even pay2win games with cash shop items being vended arnt this bad. Making money is extremely difficult unless you find a niche that pays. And even then theres no guarantee how long that niche will last before some buffoon catches on and crashes the price so neither of you can make any profit.

At this point, the only resolution I can see is drastically increasing the price that NPCs buy loot for. Lvl 80 armors should easily be worth at least 10k-20k each, but instead were getting jipped to force us to rely on a crappy crafting system thats entirely broken

[Denzyl]

My favorite are the people that undercut infinitely until theres no price left and theres no purpose in even selling the item anymore because theres no profit to be made. Thats literally what this game has become now. Constantly finding a new item before some idiots undercut it to death and drop it to 1-10 gil so that noone can make any money anymore.

Not quite true, on a couple of occasions I have noticed Sell Orders where the price was so low, it was a lot less than selling the item direct to the nearest Vendor.

On the last one I saw I made 370 Gil profit buying them up and selling them to the Vendor

As for Retainer returns spoiling Crafting, across my Characters I have 7 Retainers who Quick Venture for me.

In the last week alone I have had 5 'Stuffed Alphas', 4 'Cannonballs' & 3 'Nameday Cakes'

[Jojoya]

My favorite are the people that undercut infinitely until theres no price left and theres no purpose in even selling the item anymore because theres no profit to be made. Thats literally what this game has become now. Constantly finding a new item before some idiots undercut it to death and drop it to 1-10 gil so that noone can make any money anymore.

This game has literally handled its economy worse than any game ive ever seen. Even pay2win games with cash shop items being vended arnt this bad. Making money is extremely difficult unless you find a niche that pays. And even then theres no guarantee how long that niche will last before some buffoon catches on and crashes the price so neither of you can make any profit.

At this point, the only resolution I can see is drastically increasing the price that NPCs buy loot for. Lvl 80 armors should easily be worth at least 10k-20k each, but instead were getting jipped to force us to rely on a crappy crafting system thats entirely broken

If the listings are remaining on the MB long enough for an undercut war to drop the price close to 0, it's not the undercutting that's the problem. It's the supply on the MB compared to the demand. Items that have demand equal to or greater than the supply don't last long enough on the MB for undercutting to become a problem.

When the supply is that much higher than the demand, it's usually not worth listing the item unless you don't have anything else to list.

Increasing the sell to vendor value would be a mistake because that's one of the way RMT fuels itself - vendor off things that won't sell on the MB. SE has already chopped vendor value on a lot of items to combat that.