Final Fantasy XIV and a Culture of Enabling

[Penthea]

I've not once praised myself in this thread.

I said indirectly praising yourself, which is what you're doing by making it seem you encounter an incredible amount of "leechers" who supposedly play far below your skill level.

Like I said several pages ago, I am average at best amongst my peers.

All this says is "I'm not the best" which could mean literally any skill level.

It is objective fact that if you are not contributing to the best of your ability you are leeching.

How do you know if a random person is intentionally leeching? Are you a mind reader?

While there are valid excuses for this, they are absurdly rare.

Again, are you a mind reader?

The majority of the time it is pure laziness.

See above.

it is absurdly easy to be decent at this game yet a large portion actively chose not to be.

It's clear you have trouble grasping the fact that what you find easy isn't the case for everyone else. I'm not saying this game is difficult but what I am saying is that my performance on a bad day is someone else's best. We're not all on equal footing. People have different talents, experiences and flaws. But I don't think you care ;D

[TaleraRistain]

/applause

Honestly I think OP is just on a trip to indirectly praise themselves. It's pretty awful they view anyone underperforming as a leecher.

We don't know these strangers we're grouped up with. They might not have played that class in a long time, they might not have done that instance in a long while, they might be tired after a long day, they might be having a bad day, they might be disabled so it limits what they can do, or that performance that you think isn't great could actually be their best. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt. During my time in mmos I have personally known some bad players and among all of them only ONE was intentionally leeching. The rest lacked knowledge, experience or had a low skill ceiling. The first two can be fixed, but the last one...well not everyone is fortunate enough to have a natural ability for this sort of game. Personally in DF I'm happy as long as no one's performance is causing trouble that forces someone to work much harder, and as we know in DF the game doesn't require greatness for success. I reserve my higher expectations for ex and savage because that content demands it. In normal mode my expectations are not high because they don't need to be.

Some people here need to adjust their expectations and stop assuming the worst possible scenario for anyone not playing well. And for those who cannot well you can make a premade group. It's not as if the tools aren't there for you to get the experience you want.

Yep. Time and time again these sorts of complaints come up and it's obvious the people complaining consider that these people are doing things on purpose and spitefully to ruin their run. They forget there is a human being behind the avatar.

[Sigma5]

its not easy you gotta memorize all 100 dungeons or however many there are all 300 bosses their mechanics how to counter their mechanics on top of memorizing you skills order and dodging aoes and if you are a person who can only learn by playing its tons of work

[Vahlnir]

its not easy you gotta memorize all 100 dungeons or however many there are all 300 bosses their mechanics how to counter their mechanics on top of memorizing you skills order and dodging aoes and if you are a person who can only learn by playing its tons of work

Eh, it's not quite that complicated. Is there a lot of dungeons? Yes. Is there a lot of bosses? Yes. But there's only a few actually unique mechanics spread amongst them all. Most mechanics have been repeated many times already, so it's less about memorizing hundreds of bosses and more about saying "Oh that again? Okay, I'll move here."

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Eh, it's not quite that complicated. Is there a lot of dungeons? Yes. Is there a lot of bosses? Yes. But there's only a few actually unique mechanics spread amongst them all. Most mechanics have been repeated many times already, so it's less about memorizing hundreds of bosses and more about saying "Oh that again? Okay, I'll move here."

Precisely the majority of existing mechanic from beginning. Mostly they are just painted differently so it gave people the illusion of said mechanic being unique, but they’re actually not.

[VelKallor]

Precisely the majority of existing mechanic from beginning. Mostly they are just painted differently so it gave people the illusion of said mechanic being unique, but they’re actually not.

Two days ago i stood in my kitchen trying to remember where the can opener was, five minutes after I put it back in the drawer.

We ALL have days like that

[LaughingBanana]

Eh, it's not quite that complicated. Is there a lot of dungeons? Yes. Is there a lot of bosses? Yes. But there's only a few actually unique mechanics spread amongst them all. Most mechanics have been repeated many times already, so it's less about memorizing hundreds of bosses and more about saying "Oh that again? Okay, I'll move here."

Ehhhh, sometimes DF just put you on something that you haven't played in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time and it can be difficult to remember which way goes where when that happens.

Like I always groaned whenever the DF putting me in many of the Omega raids since most of them are just one playthrough only and yeah.

[Ammokkx]

Ehhhh, sometimes DF just put you on something that you haven't played in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time and it can be difficult to remember which way goes where when that happens.

Like I always groaned whenever the DF putting me in many of the Omega raids since most of them are just one playthrough only and yeah.

this but with the ivalice raids

I get them like once every two and a half months and immediately forgot what all the bosses do

[LaughingBanana]

Oh, and I kinda want to laugh at the suggestion of tiered DF suggestion, as in "Df for the Experts" or somesuch.

As if you're special, as if you're this 'gifted' ones, lol, like what would you do if you are considered as suck ass by people in there? What if in actually you suck compared to them?

Or alternatively, even if such thing exist, you will still continue to bitch anyways saying "oh these people in the DF for experts are not as good as me, smh, I'm so great, they suck, they can't compare to me" and proceed to ask Square to make "God level DF" or somesuch and repeat the cycle all over again.

In other words: considering such things is a complete waste of time, because no matter what Square do they can't possibly satisfy an ego the size of universe of someone like you, oh the Best God Player of FFXIV In the History of Mankind with No Comparison. You will keep demeaning others and view them as the lesser version of you because that is exactly the thing that you want to do the most, you are getting dopamine by considering the others are lesser than you.

I mean for God's sake, I know that I haven't played as long as long as many of you but yeah, I have been here for a while (just got the Parade Chocobo for 3000 comms, yey!) doing DF for hundreds if not thousands of times for all kinds of content and the amount of people actually sucking so terribly bad they can't count 1+1 is 2 *and* not wanting to receive suggestion in DF are just really a handful. I just laughed at these overblown statement by folks saying they encountered them so often like 50-70% of the time and somesuch, goddamn calm down you massive ego for a bit please; and please consider maybe develop some compassion and empathy to your fellow humans while you're at it.

[Tommara]

I never heard of a mentor doing their job.

I have.

One mentor told my husband, who had joined a level 30+ duty finder as an arcanist to do the summoner quest.