Quote Originally Posted by Vinupra-Rosa View Post
Yet another painful-to-see hot take right after the whole 'guise we should have duty finder tiering'.

Again the answer to your woes has been handed to you on a several platter several times by different people: enter as premade.

Like, I get the frustration. I've had encountered tanks who won't AoE, tanks who won't use stance, healers who only cast cure, healers who don't dps, dps who don't aoe, dps who don't stop dying. What I do is not dismiss them right-away but offer advice. Try to help. And I find that if you word things nicely people tend to listen -- i've seen a WHM go from cure/medica spamming at the start of a dungeon to using holy and cure II at the end of it. I've seen tanks adjust and begin using AoEs, pull bigger, use cooldowns better. I've seen DPS doing their rotations semi-competently after a few pulls.

And there are those who don't improve, or bite back when given advice. At which point you have two options: leave, or kick. If you personally are offended by the other player's conduct but the rest of the party doesn't mind? Leave. If you feel like the entire party is fed up? Kick.

People who are doing (or not) 'bare minimum' might be lazy, but they might also just be unskilled and/or not given the proper guidance. Or they might be having issues irl (hardware, situational, emotional) that might be barring them from doing what you'd consider 'ideal'. They might also be hampered by the actions of another person in the group (I once kept dying in Breach because other people kept on getting me killed)

So yes. Take a seat please.
So its okay for one group to be toxic and grief another portion of the the player base? Its okay for a section of the player base to be taken advantage of? Pretty bad take.