Gotta love loving a house after 13 hours to blatant third party software

[Verendal]

Key word would still show what could amount to a coincidence. SE GM’s go based off what they can see and be proved as a violation of TOS.

I'm sorry, I can't give proof without going into name and shame territory but in this case? It's no more conjecture than 'two people in a room, one holding a smoking gun the other on the floor having been shot, there was a fence between them so they could not have picked up the gun after the other person shot themselves, but we didn't see them pull the trigger so it's just conjecture'

[Awha]

I'm sorry, I can't give proof without going into name and shame territory but in this case? It's no more conjecture than 'two people in a room, one holding a smoking gun the other on the floor having been shot, there was a fence between them so they could not have picked up the gun after the other person shot themselves, but we didn't see them pull the trigger so it's just conjecture'

Problem is using your example you have no way to prove the bullet was fired from said gun. So yeah without that then the possibly remains that something else is responsible. Sure it may be unlikely but without it then doubt can be established which personally I do not think people should be found guilty of something if the possibility remains as that they are innocent.

In the end SE GM’s go based off what they can prove. In the end yeah if they cannot prove the violation then they will not take action.

[Verendal]

Problem is using your example you have no way to prove the bullet was fired from said gun.

Uh. Sorry, what? Ballistic forensics can examine a bullet, and a gun, and say 'yes, this bullet came from this gun, without a shadow of reasonable doubt' because every gun has its own pattern of microscopic marking that are as unique and identifiable as any fingerprint. That example is false, and the comparison here is 'which system did the continuous pattern of selecting things come from' which is equally clear by server logs.

[Awha]

Uh. Sorry, what? Ballistic forensics can examine a bullet, and a gun, and say 'yes, this bullet came from this gun, without a shadow of reasonable doubt' because every gun has its own pattern of microscopic marking that are as unique and identifiable as any fingerprint. That example is false, and the comparison here is 'which system did the continuous pattern of selecting things come from' which is equally clear by server logs.

Thing is as another person said all SE can see are clicks and a pattern of DC'ing. As per your example not enough to determine the bullet was fired from said gun. Goes outside the scope of what they are allowed to use as evidence.

The comparison is not false your example was flawed since you are operating under the assumption GM's have the tools required to create a concrete connection after the fact. The reality is they do not. I was just following your example.

I get it sucks but GM’s are not all powerful.

[Verendal]

Thing is as another person said all SE can see are clicks and a pattern of DC'ing. As per your example not enough to determine the bullet was fired from said gun. Goes outside the scope of what they are allowed to use as evidence.

The comparison is not false your example was flawed since you are operating under the assumption GM's have the tools required to create a concrete connection after the fact. The reality is they do not. I was just following your example.

I get it sucks but GM’s are not all powerful.

Gonna have to hard disagree with you on this one. There is PLENTY of evidence with none to the contrary.

[Awha]

Gonna have to hard disagree with you on this one. There is PLENTY of evidence with none to the contrary.

As mentioned by others the evidence they are allowed to use does not allow them to make such a call with certainty. I get it is infuriating, but as said they are not all powerful.

[NanaWiloh]

Thing is as another person said all SE can see are clicks and a pattern of DC'ing. As per your example not enough to determine the bullet was fired from said gun. Goes outside the scope of what they are allowed to use as evidence.

The comparison is not false your example was flawed since you are operating under the assumption GM's have the tools required to create a concrete connection after the fact. The reality is they do not. I was just following your example.

I get it sucks but GM’s are not all powerful.

Seems like a lot of MMO's now adays are going this route. "Here GM's have all these powerful tools, but you can't use them sorry"

[Awha]

Seems like a lot of MMO's now adays are going this route. "Here GM's have all these powerful tools, but you can't use them sorry"

Well I mean GM’s prop do not get paid well and probably just like other jobs for the most part hate working and investigating require effort.