Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

[Penthea]

I mean...they keep updating crap like Mahjong and triple triad (Not sure how many people actually use it, but the resources for that could have definitely been used to update something in the game that actually affects a portion of the playerbase), so since they prioritize mahjong and triple triad over these limited races, its the reason why my expectations are low, even though I desperately want it

I don't think the people updating those mini games are the same people who design and model characters and gear. These are entirely different skillsets. Sure no reason why a person isn't able to do both but I don't think it's likely that those mini games are to blame in even a small way.

I think the most likely explanation is the most obvious one, and that's the pandemic. Viera and hrothgar aren't the only content that have suffered from a lack of attention. SE have had to drop, delay or fuse events together and the rewards at times were quite basic. The expansion has been delayed by months as well. And like I'm fine if this is the reason why we haven't seen anything for us yet. What I'm not fine with is the silence. I'd be happy with an announcement merely stating we're not forgotten even if there are no images. I just want to see some manner of confirmation as to whether they ever plan to do anything about the new races or not. I'm legit asking for a tiny scrap of acknowledgement. And some people call me entitled for wanting that after two years, lol.

[SturmChurro]

In what world does this even make sense...what?! So, they fix the clipping by making it magically float above your head??? I normally only wear glasses and hoods on my hroth, but oholy crap

It's a one size fits all. I think I was talking about this awhile back in one of the threads: hrothgar have different sized heads, this is why headgear is problematic for hrothgar in general. Viera has this problem too, I suspect due to the puffy hairstles/future proofing.

[Fairymore]

I support this mega thread. Viera are designed well enough for me to enjoy the game but, simply put, I would enjoy this game more if they were given more hairstyles.

I’ve always believed this dev team and their game to be a good example of integrity and quality. How can I not with the “realm reborn” situation. Instead of settling with mediocre game the rebuilt it. So when it’s mentioned that a problem won’t be fixed unless there is a “payoff”, it just doesn’t sound like them.

I think they should not settle for the limited options that are currently available. They should provide more hairstyles for viera and more face/hair combos for hroth because it has to do with the integrity and quality we have come to expect from FFXIV.

[LuciaMirain]

For me it is simply seeing the mods that are currently out to fix the races hats and hair issues. They are actually quite good, hair no longer clips, hats are resized to fit and you can decided if you want ears to show or not on viera. Some clipping of the ears is bad, sure, but alot of the hats work just fine with the clipping. So it can be done (which we knew from the start), it just isn't being done. Which at some point you think "well there is a pandemic" but then you think "yes, and all the other races got new stuff during pandemic as well..". They could've let two hairstyles that have been released for the other races take a backseat and instead released one hairstyle for hrothgar and viera each. They could've prioritized us. For once. But they didn't.

[LittleArrow]

I've heard that every post here on our forums does make it to the devs. I'm hoping that they see even after expac launch, this is still an important issue to address and not be forgotten.

I understand the non-viera / hrothgar argument could be that this is content that will only be used by a small number of the playerbase (Viera / Hrothgar); however, I'll argue that's not the case. Being able to see viera / hrothgar wearing armor by other races helps to integrate them more in the game and not pull the general aesthetic of the game down with constant flowers / face masks or hide helmets. In other words, it is a net positive to the game world at large. It is worth the time and manpower to contribute to this.

So again, please, Yoshi, fix this. It is so disappointing to see how these races are unfinished without any word / commitment / timeline in fixing them. These races are apart of your game and they deserve your attention as much as any other race.

[MorionQ]

Hrothgar being a playable race already crosses a line that the devs previously refused to cross for aesthetic reasons. If these designs became a beast tribe, no one would question it. Actually, maybe that’s why the devs so strongly kept with the jungle maiden aesthetic for Viera? Like, the point is both races are borderline as far as the accepted standards for the enlightened races of Eorzea go. So, they ran with that idea while still offering players the requested FFXII Viera and FFX Ronso inspired races.

[flipwizardmagoo]

Honestly, at this point I have so little expectations that if they did just remove/toggle the hair flowers I would be happy. I just want my character’s looks to be cohesive. What about all that immersion stuff you tout, SE? I get that your in game Viera are mostly all in the same little forest tribe, but not all Viera would run around with little flowers all over.

[EtherRose]

So again, please, Yoshi, fix this. It is so disappointing to see how these races are unfinished without any word / commitment / timeline in fixing them. These races are apart of your game and they deserve your attention as much as any other race.

They are working on them. That's why you see new headgear, etc. that's wearable pop-up. Albeit it is nothing but a slow trickle of updates or work of the matter but it is something. With Covid-19 being a problem and delaying them 3 months altogether on production and the tight schedule they follow for content patches/updates and expansions - something like this would be on the back burner.

Hopefully the "FanFest" in May will shine some light on the matter.

[LuciaMirain]

Honestly, at this point I have so little expectations that if they did just remove/toggle the hair flowers I would be happy. I just want my character’s looks to be cohesive. What about all that immersion stuff you tout, SE? I get that your in game Viera are mostly all in the same little forest tribe, but not all Viera would run around with little flowers all over.

Leatherbands in their hair, I imagine, feathers, braids.....different tattoos on their bodies, cuts into their ears or paint on their ears, more facepaints even. There were so many things they couldve done that didnt involve hats to make vieras and hrothgars more different from eachother.

[LisSquid]

Leatherbands in their hair, I imagine, feathers, braids.....different tattoos on their bodies, cuts into their ears or paint on their ears, more facepaints even. There were so many things they couldve done that didnt involve hats to make vieras and hrothgars more different from eachother.

Indeed! I would have also thought alternate versions of headpieces only showing parts of the assets that don't clip. Facial covers sans the top piece, in the cryptlurker sets for example. Retroactively editing all pre-ShB sets would have been a task, but everything after it? Seems like a missed opportunity to placate a lot of people.