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    Quote Originally Posted by Areic View Post
    I genuinely enjoyed it, from the theme, boss fights, and music. Story was somewhat so-so at parts but I can't complain. Most people I know enjoyed at least the raids themselves if not the story.

    You just see more complaints as more people are inclined to come to a forum to complain about something than to praise it. Those who are happy with something are usually content with that, with the occasional person wanting to share how happy they are about it.

    Those who aren't happy are more likely to go public with it.
    I understand the logic, but you can't hide all Nier flaws behind a "Yes but the happy people don't talk".
    How about we take it the other way and try to find people who didn't liked Ivalice, Shadow of Mhach or Crystal Tower?
    I tried to find topic about complains on Ivalice and Shadow of Mhach but all I found was complains about Ozma difficulty and how players were wiping in Weeping City, how they were giving up.
    I also found complaints about how Orbonne Monastery was confusing for those who absolutely didn't touched FFT, how Ultima was badly introduced, you see her, you kill her. Also the glamours were not great.

    But those are the only complaints I could find, if someone else can find more, we'd have a much better metric when it comes to feedback.
    I even found praise topic aswell.

    But Nier is the only raid series so far with such a conflict and negative feedback.
    In short: There was much less complaint about previous raid tiers and Ivalice was more praised than negatively criticized.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 04-27-2021 at 05:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I understand the logic, but you can't hide all Nier flaws behind a "Yes but the happy people don't talk".
    I feel it's extra relevant here because the initial response was so extremely negative that a lot of happy people dont wanna voice their joy only for it to get attacked by a mob.
    I'm thoroughly satisfied with the raid, and yet this is my first post even indicating that because I just don't wanna get into it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Remember when people were theorizing that maybe the androids were left-over creations of the Ancients? I believe there was even a quest that hinted at it.

    Would have been nice if that'd gone anywhere.
    How could that have remotely been lore consistent?
    Do you remember what this quote is?
    How could it have gone anywhere if it was just a theory the community generated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    How could that have remotely been lore consistent?
    Do you remember what this quote is?
    How could it have gone anywhere if it was just a theory the community generated?
    Responsible Creation sidequest: "... I've been credited with a few popular concepts, I'm proud to say. I'm hoping that my latest will be equally well received: autonomous figures. ... Autonomy notwithstanding, these creations know no fear. They are wholly devoid of emotion, and will without hesitation or resistance engage in any dangerous activity─even if death is assured."

    People took the above quotes to mean the Nier androids. Personally I always figured the simpler explanation would be golems or any of the other already extant autonomous creations already present in the lore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn View Post
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    I had no idea people were connecting that line with Nier.
    I'm with you here, I figured it referred to some kind of Allagan tech.
    Thanks for the information~
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