Idea for venues

[Ravenblade1979]

Reading all this. People need to stop white knighting. You don't wanna go then don't. Don't mess up another person's gameplay experience (which is also against ToS) because you want to be a karen about it.

I suggested a solution that at least gets them in their own tab. Also this game is rated teen and if you think teens are all that innocent then you got a huge eye opener.

Venues hides what they are about because of white knights who take it upon themselves to report the person. The person did nothing to you but have an advertisement up in pm. That's all they did so why is anyone breaking the ToS on their end blatantly to ruin their experience.

Sorry to break it to you all but this is common place to see these now. Wasn't before covid but it is now.

What I will agree on is removing that 18+ stuff. It's pretty common knowledge what the venues are for. That doesn't give karens the right to go out of their way to report and get innocent peoples accounts get strikes or bans. You are just scum at that point doing more damage then you are good.

I would much rather see those resources go into getting blatant botting and phishing scams taken down but no..karens go after the stuff no really affecting them or their friends. Bravo karens bravo.

[LianaThorne]

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No one is white knighting in this post from what I've seen. Defending that the game isn't rated 18+ isn't white knighting, it's literally stating the age rating of the game is not 18+. As far as I've read in this thread so far, most people are fine with the idea of an RP tab in general. If you're referring to the people who are going out of their way to report 18+ venues and are bothered in general by the idea of ERP, they're not gonna stop just cause of your post. Sorry to say. They're allowed to have that opinion the same as you're allowed to think everyone who does it is a Karen.

Second off, as far as I'm aware, SFW venues have been left alone during this whole situation aside from one dude looking for someone to fish with and maybe 1 other during the original situation with the GM that caused all of this. Since then, I have not seen a peep out of someone that had a legitimate SFW venue get reported. I can count on both hands the amount of threads that have popped up with people not knowing why they're being sent to gaol but literally advertise ERP related activities either in the literal PF or in a carrd website (which we assume now that SE is using as proof since the people involved in the venue themselves are providing the link).

Last, people will report things if they go against the ToS. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but that's not a bad thing either and insulting people for that when it LITERALLY IS AGAINST THE AGE RATING OF THE GAME is a choice. Whether or not someone chooses to do it for good reasons or bad is not anything anyone can control because no one can ultimately control how people think or react to situations. If you get in trouble, you broke a rule of the game. If you didn't, then you weren't breaking any rules. Period. Someone reporting you for a negative reason doesn't override that you were breaking the rules in the first place.

Also, before anyone brings this up: "ONLINE INTERACTIONS ARE NOT RATED" is not meant for us, it is solely for the protection of the ESRB. For example: If discussing pornography is against Game A's ToS, I can't just go into a crowded room and start screaming about it because it's an online interaction. You'll still get in trouble if someone reports you since it's against Game A's ToS to discuss those topics.

As far as the bots go btw, since I just realized you included that. People do report them, there have been people reporting the same bots for months or years now. The issue is it's incredibly hard to keep those people out of the game. You can ban them but that can be dodged with a VPN and a new account. You can perm ban them but that still has its workarounds, it just takes a bit longer. Square is basically fighting whales with too much time on their hands and enough money to burn to make dozens of alt accounts. In terms of the scams, it's the same principle as bots except we'd need people on our end to also not click on those links and give them new accounts to use. I am in several discords who put out reminders to not click on those links so the community is trying where we can.

[Lanadra]

white knighting karen

white knights

karens scum

karens karens

The truth is very simple. If they're breaking the ToS with 18+ nonsense, people can report them for it, simple as that. You can whine all you want, but if the implications of a PF add, namely, ERP/18+ stuff.. then people can report them for it. It's then up to the GMs to determine whether or not there's actually actionable stuff there.. and guess what.. if it lands someone in the Mordion Gaol.. I guess the GMs agreed with the reporter.

[Resurrection_three_three]

Reading all this. People need to stop white knighting. You don't wanna go then don't. Don't mess up another person's gameplay experience (which is also against ToS) because you want to be a karen about it.

I suggested a solution that at least gets them in their own tab. Also this game is rated teen and if you think teens are all that innocent then you got a huge eye opener.

Venues hides what they are about because of white knights who take it upon themselves to report the person. The person did nothing to you but have an advertisement up in pm. That's all they did so why is anyone breaking the ToS on their end blatantly to ruin their experience.

Sorry to break it to you all but this is common place to see these now. Wasn't before covid but it is now.

What I will agree on is removing that 18+ stuff. It's pretty common knowledge what the venues are for. That doesn't give karens the right to go out of their way to report and get innocent peoples accounts get strikes or bans. You are just scum at that point doing more damage then you are good.

I would much rather see those resources go into getting blatant botting and phishing scams taken down but no..karens go after the stuff no really affecting them or their friends. Bravo karens bravo.

Section 3.3 is absolute!! Anything that violates section 3.3 must be eradicated at once! All the brave Eorzeans protecting section 3.3 by reporting violating ERP are heroes.