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    Quote Originally Posted by Helbya View Post
    That's a fair point; This is a service we are Paying for, and someone is clearly harassing and attacking the community in contemptuous violation of the stated rules. It doesn't fall on us to fix the problem.
    Couldn't agree more.
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    "You haven't proven that it is safe, you've (only) proved that you can't figure out how it's dangerous."

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    Though if SE has failed to fix the problem it begs the question what else can the communityn do if SE has shown either an unwillingness or an inability to do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Though if SE has failed to fix the problem it begs the question what else can the communityn do if SE has shown either an unwillingness or an inability to do anything.
    Be hyper vigilant is about all I can suggest, whatever that may entail.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I suppose you could also gather some people together and politely explain the situation to a prominent FFXIV streamer to see if they can start raising awareness about the issue through their platform.

    Still though, I feel this could be more beneficial if the right streamer is found and is willing to talk about it. SE hates bad press like any other big company does. Well, with the exception of Blizzard. They seem to love it. lol I guess someone could also try to ask Yoshi P himself during the live Q&A next month but chances are he won't bite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Be hyper vigilant is about all I can suggest, whatever that may entail.




    Still though, I feel this could be more beneficial if the right streamer is found and is willing to talk about it. SE hates bad press like any other big company does. Well, with the exception of Blizzard. They seem to love it. lol I guess someone could also try to ask Yoshi P himself during the live Q&A next month but chances are he won't bite.
    Personally at this point I think at this point all we can do is just starve this man of the attention. Sure hateful speech is hard to ignore but sadly within the game space in terms of player control the tools are rather limited especially if the person has burner accounts and a lot of free time.

    It took blizzard with overwatch a hardware ban and said troll making youtube videos to get them off overwatch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Personally at this point I think at this point all we can do is just starve this man of the attention. Sure hateful speech is hard to ignore but sadly within the game space in terms of player control the tools are rather limited especially if the person has burner accounts and a lot of free time.

    It took blizzard with overwatch a hardware ban and said troll making youtube videos to get them off overwatch.
    I think a hardware ban is more than justified at this point.
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    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chie_M View Post
    I think a hardware ban is more than justified at this point.
    That is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Personally at this point I think at this point all we can do is just starve this man of the attention. Sure hateful speech is hard to ignore but sadly within the game space in terms of player control the tools are rather limited especially if the person has burner accounts and a lot of free time.
    This has been suggested in this thread multiple times already. It's almost impossible to do given the sheer amount of players that rotate in and out of Novice Network every day. Obviously, those of us who know what's been happening don't react to it. But new players? Returning players? Mentors who casually play? All examples of people who might not know this has been going on and will react in chat to the wall of slurs. Then those of us who do know what's going on have to respond to try and explain that this is just one guy and not reflective of the community at large.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AstraBraifort View Post
    This has been suggested in this thread multiple times already. It's almost impossible to do given the sheer amount of players that rotate in and out of Novice Network every day. Obviously, those of us who know what's been happening don't react to it. But new players? Returning players? Mentors who casually play? All examples of people who might not know this has been going on and will react in chat to the wall of slurs. Then those of us who do know what's going on have to respond to try and explain that this is just one guy and not reflective of the community at large.

    End of the day we only have control over our own actions. One really does not have to respond people will be shocked but as time goes on fewer and fewer people will respond to his comments. I did mention it would be hard to ignore but the reality is outside of starting a mass movement around this (which I personally do not see happening) not much we can do as players short from not let it been seen that it is bothering us. With time even the most deprived troll will get bored.
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    Timestamp: 04:18 (4:18 AM), GMT+9 (Japanese Time), Midgardsormr, Novice Network

    They're making sprouts/returners want to leave. We've all noted that it's been ongoing for months. One of our mentors got personally targeted by the spammer through the spammer imitating their name in chat.

    This cannot continue. Square Enix, PLEASE PUT A GAMEMASTER IN EVERY NOVICE NETWORK FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT MONTH. It will be much less of a strain to the GM system for them to assign a single GM to observe Novice Network, trace the spammer, and hopefully nip the weed in the bud than it would be for them to keep recieving reports on this for MONTHS and for us to keep suffering from this for MONTHS.

    And, after that, they need to take legal action against the person responsible. I'm pretty sure this guy must have broken a rule somewhere, or at least their actions are significant enough that one can consider their actions as having incurred /damages/ to Square Enix. Surely they can track the person through their bank/registration info/etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinupra-Rosa View Post

    Timestamp: 04:18 (4:18 AM), GMT+9 (Japanese Time), Midgardsormr, Novice Network
    Can I just get this on record: These are active hate crimes at this point. SE's own arbitration rules in ToS are unable to protect them from this since you cannot arbitrate illegal activity. They have a lot of potential lawsuits at their front door with that number only growing each day they let this go.
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