PSA: If a player takes your loot in an "owner needs" map party, they get to keep it

[ReynTime]

I see a lot of people mentioning FCs or friends instead for maps, but that isn't an option for everyone. I, for one, wouldn't have resorted to PF if I had any friends/a proper FC in this game.

Getting into an FC that has people interested in doing maps is the easiest thing in the world.

Going solo all the time in a mmorpg, even if it's XIV, will have drawbacks. As it should.

[Kuroka]

Owner need is a terrible loot rule for maps anyway. People should dump that awful arrangement and just stick with free for all.

...thats nice and fun until you get that guy rolling a 20 mill worth of loot from you and your friends as he keeps rolling high...

[Bright-Flower]

...thats nice and fun until you get that guy rolling a 20 mill worth of loot from you and your friends as he keeps rolling high...

RNG is RNG how is that any different from 'oh this guy got super lucky with the loot from his map but mine sucked'?

[Avatre]

That's why I only go with friends. We all agree on the owner need, everyone else greed. And since we don't have issues with that, we're all happy to keep doing it that way.

[Narangerel]

It's unfortunate, yeah. But that's why "Owner needs" rules are something that require a modicum of trust. And if there are people who you should not trust when loot is involved, it's strangers you meet in a PF.

There aren't many options for folks not in an FC/having friends, but unless SE changes maps to have their own unique set of loot rules, that's how it be.

[NanaWiloh]

If map owner is rolling need everyone else is just wasting their time rolling greed. Just spare your teammates by letting them know when you intend to roll and when you dont. If you dont roll then they greed if you do roll they can just pass.

[Katie_Kitty]

RNG is RNG how is that any different from 'oh this guy got super lucky with the loot from his map but mine sucked'?

This pretty much! It's not any worse than all your maps being duds while everyone else gets portals and loot drops.

Everyone is at risk of getting nothing. Everyone has the potential to win everything. But, more importantly, with FFA every single map is an opportunity to win. In owner need, you get one map out of every 8 where something good might happen and the other 7 you're stuck praying for no portals.

That's no good. I'll never agree that a loot rule which causes people to root *against* portals is a good way to handle maps.

[Jojoya]

There's no reason for the owner need parties to exist in the first place. FFA is far more relaxed and social, and everyone will walk away with something even if it's just gil (which is usually a fairly considerable amount by the end if everyone has brought at least 2 maps).

If you're bothered by others winning a loot roll on a map you provided, stick to using solo maps.

[Mavrias]

owner needs has always been a terrible loot rule. what? just cause it's your map, you should get all the good loot despite the fact that everyone's killing mobs and junk? everyone contributes. so everyone should be able to roll need.

[Iscah]

If map owner is rolling need everyone else is just wasting their time rolling greed. Just spare your teammates by letting them know when you intend to roll and when you dont. If you dont roll then they greed if you do roll they can just pass.

It's not like it's any more effort to press the Greed button than the Pass button though. Discussing it every time wouldn't achieve anything.