PSA: If a player takes your loot in an "owner needs" map party, they get to keep it

[Nayout]

I think it should work exactly like this, but...well, it is what it is I guess.

It would surprise me if this was not the case, if there is a deal between players established in the text chat and it is broken, it should be considered a scam in this way you avoid any problem between players or what happens many times on the maps.

[linayar]

You cannot use lootmaster on map parties- that is the fundamental issue with these parties.

Yeah, I made an edit. Guess that's a feature request possibility, unless they really want FFA on maps.

[QueenKitty]

Yeah, I made an edit. Guess that's a feature request possibility, unless they really want FFA on maps.

I think it might be due to the way the map dungeons don't go through the actual Duty Finder? Which is the same reason you're able to enter a map portal if you have the 30 minute penalty from leaving a dungeon.

[Vahlnir]

You cannot use lootmaster on map parties- that is the fundamental issue with these parties.

I think it would be a great addition, though I could also see players change the loot rules prior to completing a map or rolling on loot in some cases. There are drawbacks to every system though because people love to exploit every possible weakness.

[QueenKitty]

I think it would be a great addition, though I could also see players change the loot rules prior to completing a map or rolling on loot in some cases.

I'd hope it would be like the current Duty Finder, where you can see the loot rule in the queue window prior to entering. If that were the case, it would be no different than someone attempting to queue a free loot Extreme farm as lootmaster.

quick edit: I'm aware maps have no queue window, so perhaps having one added or using an equivalent.

[linayar]

I think it might be due to the way the map dungeons don't go through the actual Duty Finder? Which is the same reason you're able to enter a map portal if you have the 30 minute penalty from leaving a dungeon.

Wait, are you serious? Interesting. But anyways, it is a feature to think about regardless.

[QueenKitty]

Wait, are you serious? Interesting. But anyways, it is a feature to think about regardless.

Yes, the way maps work seems quite odd. I'd imagine you'd get something about spaghetti code as an answer for why.

[Arrhin]

Owner needs is a nice break as someone who's had awful RNG
Unfortunately I learned the hard way that it isn't worth it...

This is a good argument for Owner Need, regardless trust is an issue in PF groups. I tend to avoid, but there's not always enough ppl around in the ol FC so sometimes risks must be taken I guess.

[Sotaris]

This is why I only do maps with friends and FC.

[Packetdancer]

Owner need is a terrible loot rule for maps anyway. People should dump that awful arrangement and just stick with free for all.

Honestly, yes. I was in an "Owner Need" map party where I brought literally half of the maps we did, but had terrible luck on portals -- or the drops in the few I got. Meanwhile, I watched someone else get what I was hoping for on the one map they brought. It was a depressing evening.

I actually really like the rule my FC has for map parties: everyone rolls "Need", but if you've already gotten one of whatever that night, you roll Greed on it after that. So if, for instance, Frontier Cloth drops, everyone can roll Need. If I won that cloth, I would then roll Greed on all the future drops of the cloth for the evening but I could roll Need on, say, Calf Leather. I wouldn't win another roll for Frontier cloth unless literally everyone in the group who wanted Frontier cloth had already gotten it.

It works well, but admittedly that's also because when my FC does map parties, we tend to set aside like three hours and blast through 24 maps or something; there are more chances for everyone to get something.

(It's also nice because you don't have to spend brainpower tracking who's gotten what and have to tally stuff up for "can I roll on this one now"; since you start rolling Greed, you can't win a roll until everyone else has, and as soon as they have... well, at that point everyone is rolling Greed, so your Greed rolls could now win you stuff again.)