Going through so much depression and this game is helping me immensely

[Theodric]

I'd consider it to be a pretty nuanced issue, really. It's one thing to use the game as a way to help alleviate one's problems...but it's another thing entirely to then expect other players to deal with the fallout when things go awry. Which is, unfortunately, alarmingly common within the FFXIV community.

I'm not suggesting that everybody does it, of course, but I've had some unpleasant encounters in the past with individuals who seek to exploit their issues as a way of trying to beg for free items, real world money, or just overshare details that regular people are simply not qualified to weigh in on or untangle.

It happened often enough that I'm very cautious now about who I allow to get close to me in-game. Especially in regards to the gaslighting and manipulative behaviour that can arise in some scenarios.

[Nayout]

I'd consider it to be a pretty nuanced issue, really. It's one thing to use the game as a way to help alleviate one's problems...but it's another thing entirely to then expect other players to deal with the fallout when things go awry. Which is, unfortunately, alarmingly common within the FFXIV community.

This is too true, my last problem I had in the FF was from people who used their mental problems as excuses for everything they did and a leader of an FC who brought their problems to the FF.

The feeling that the person who created this post feels is something very common in many gaming communities, in Wow it happened to me and I think that all of us who have been playing MMORPG have lived it but unfortunately in FFXIV it is the first game where I see so many people with problems related to the mental health that lead to having a community that I feel is excessively delicate of any slight criticism, not of the game, but of themselves or many people who use these problems as excuses

On reddit many times I have seen people who lose the motivation to play because they have been told something in a dungeon or that they cannot receive some advice without entering into anxiety attacks or even people who hide the chat to not read anything.

[Jeeqbit]

On reddit many times I have seen people who lose the motivation to play because they have been told something in a dungeon or that they cannot receive some advice without entering into anxiety attacks or even people who hide the chat to not read anything.

Someone being rude in a dungeon can ruin the entire month of someone with no mental problems and make them apprehensive about ever queueing for one again. The effect of a rude person in a dungeon cannot be understated.

Giving advice to a stranger you just met is probably going to be interpreted as you implying they are playing badly. They probably aren't wrong for interpreting it that way either.

Telling them they are playing badly is rude. As I said, being rude can leave a footprint in their mind for a month or more. That's why it's best to just give advice when it's asked for, necessary to defeat a boss, or when you know them outside of the dungeon and aren't trying to type while fighting.

We also have to remember that most people don't do a dungeon to play optimally, they do it to enjoy the story or unwind and the last thing they probably want is someone to disrupt that with their "advice".

[ZedxKayn]

Someone being rude in a dungeon can ruin the entire month of someone with no mental problems and make them apprehensive about ever queueing for one again. The effect of a rude person in a dungeon cannot be understated.

Giving advice to a stranger you just met is probably going to be interpreted as you implying they are playing badly. They probably aren't wrong for interpreting it that way either.

Telling them they are playing badly is rude. As I said, being rude can leave a footprint in their mind for a month or more. That's why it's best to just give advice when it's asked for, necessary to defeat a boss, or when you know them outside of the dungeon and aren't trying to type while fighting.

We also have to remember that most people don't do a dungeon to play optimally, they do it to enjoy the story or unwind and the last thing they probably want is someone to disrupt that with their "advice".

If advice would shatter your mental health, fix your mindset before playing a game revolving around teamwork.

[Jeeqbit]

If advice would shatter your mental health, fix your mindset before playing a game revolving around teamwork.

You've missed my point entirely. It's pretty obvious that if you are giving someone advice then you are probably telling them they are playing badly.

If you are doing a dungeon just for fun, that is probably the last thing you want to hear. It's not extreme or savage.

[ZedxKayn]

You've missed my point entirely. It's pretty obvious that if you are giving someone advice then you are probably telling them they are playing badly.

If you are doing a dungeon just for fun, that is probably the last thing you want to hear. It's not extreme or savage.

If that's how they choose to interpret it.
I mean no insult when I give advice, like I don't take it as an insult when I'm given advice. People are just trying to be helpful infinitely more than they are trying to imply whoever they are playing with is bad.

[Lauront]

Someone being rude in a dungeon can ruin the entire month of someone with no mental problems and make them apprehensive about ever queueing for one again. The effect of a rude person in a dungeon cannot be understated.

Giving advice to a stranger you just met is probably going to be interpreted as you implying they are playing badly. They probably aren't wrong for interpreting it that way either.

Telling them they are playing badly is rude. As I said, being rude can leave a footprint in their mind for a month or more. That's why it's best to just give advice when it's asked for, necessary to defeat a boss, or when you know them outside of the dungeon and aren't trying to type while fighting.

We also have to remember that most people don't do a dungeon to play optimally, they do it to enjoy the story or unwind and the last thing they probably want is someone to disrupt that with their "advice".

I think reading that much into people's intentions and having such a mentality is not going to be particularly conducive to growing as a person in general. People do need to grow slightly thicker skin if mere advice scars them in that way...

[KizuyaKatogami]

Someone being rude in a dungeon can ruin the entire month of someone with no mental problems and make them apprehensive about ever queueing for one again. The effect of a rude person in a dungeon cannot be understated.

Giving advice to a stranger you just met is probably going to be interpreted as you implying they are playing badly. They probably aren't wrong for interpreting it that way either.

Telling them they are playing badly is rude. As I said, being rude can leave a footprint in their mind for a month or more. That's why it's best to just give advice when it's asked for, necessary to defeat a boss, or when you know them outside of the dungeon and aren't trying to type while fighting.

We also have to remember that most people don't do a dungeon to play optimally, they do it to enjoy the story or unwind and the last thing they probably want is someone to disrupt that with their "advice".

If someone being rude to a person in a dungeon ruins their mood for a MONTH, i would disagree with that person not having any mental problems. Disregarding that, i dont think anyone is asking for people to go through a dungeon fully optimized. But when you have people who arent even doing the basics of their job, thats going to rightfully get called out. Dungeons arent solo content. You're playing with 3 other people and if youre not going to take the time to learn your job and instead waste 3 other players' time, its going to get called out.

[Jeeqbit]

If someone being rude to a person in a dungeon ruins their mood for a MONTH, i would disagree with that person not having any mental problems.

Regardless of your disagreement, it's clear that it has this effect and that's why being rude is against the rules.

[DamianFatale]

Someone being rude in a dungeon can ruin the entire month of someone with no mental problems and make them apprehensive about ever queueing for one again. The effect of a rude person in a dungeon cannot be understated.

Giving advice to a stranger you just met is probably going to be interpreted as you implying they are playing badly. They probably aren't wrong for interpreting it that way either.

Telling them they are playing badly is rude. As I said, being rude can leave a footprint in their mind for a month or more. That's why it's best to just give advice when it's asked for, necessary to defeat a boss, or when you know them outside of the dungeon and aren't trying to type while fighting.

We also have to remember that most people don't do a dungeon to play optimally, they do it to enjoy the story or unwind and the last thing they probably want is someone to disrupt that with their "advice".

Depends on what they have done, or if you knew the person. I had an ex friend who became a stalker to me in game, and in real life. At one point he threatened to.. assault me in the.. well you know kind of way. It was random, he just entered my private apartment in front of my friend, and that was that. We just left and hoped he wouldn't find us. :X

Went on a date a month later irl and he followed me in front of the movie theater, because he recognized me. My boyfriend was furious.