Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

[LisSquid]

I am hopeful for the May liveletter. EW is a long ways off, but I'd be satisfied with some concept art at the least.

[LuciaMirain]

I am also hopeful for the LL in May but at the same time....I expect nothing at all. I have a fantasia sitting in my saddlebag atm just waiting to switch back to Au Ra if nothing comes then either. I adore my viera but it has just turned sour how SE doesn't give us ANYTHING, not even a hint to us getting more hairstyles. I am not to fuzzed about hats (and there are mods for that now anyway) but I would love some more hairstyles. People in this and other threads that whine about viera and hrothgar players complaining honestly just need to make their own thread where they can complain about us bringing up the topic.

[reivaxe]

Just saying, tiny kitty waifus shouldn’t throw stones.

... How am I "throwing stones" by pointing out that this fanbase for this JPN game is weeb af and many people would have been fine with a fully functional version of their "bunny waifus" had they made them rabbit versions of cat girls?
I legit remember many a thread of people convincing themselves that the pale clan "should be shorter" cause of some bs comparison going around with misleading information back in the day and many people whine to this day about the lack of bunny tails.

And that's perfectly fine, SE should have realized that above all else most people wanted to play dress up with pretty animal eared women over having a 1:1 version of Fran if it meant the race could be "normal" and I don't see a world where an alt bunny race doesn't become hella popular.

(And I actually supported Viera getting into this game since before HW (was super bummed at the Draggo reveal), actively posting here in support of getting them in. Fran was the only non-human FF character I knew at the time and I knew the race was black coded, so they would make great tall black women. The legit only reason I don't play one isn't because of the head stuff, it's because they barely animate or show emotion and I don't personally like to play such reserved characters, so they're a let-down for me. I'm not throwing shade at all, people like pretty characters, and I'm no different. My taste is far wider than most, but I'm picky af about things like animation and hair types ... so I'm highly disappointed with the options in this game for a number of reasons)

I don’t really feel like talking in circles any more with you because neither of us is budging, nor have we ever seen eye to eye on this subject in any capacity. Gotta say I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody as invested in a race they have no interest in playing.

*points above at my long history of actually supporting Veira to the point of shouting down people who wanted "beast races" because there's "no way SE would add them when that means remodeling all the headgear" ... that stance aged well.

My fascination with these races actually comes from a background in video games and animation. I like looking at the puzzle that is these messes and seeing how the devs think even if I feel 1 is a complete waste of an option because of stiff, lack luster animations.

And I have no clue how we're "talking in circles". The devs didn't go "Opps, forgot to make hat hair models ... welp, no hats!", they didn't make hat hair models because they made the race with no intention of giving them hats. If you can look at how it's technically possible and easy to have hats show up on Viera and come up with a reason other than "They think "let it clip" isn't acceptable for hats and most all helms" then feel free to say what that theory is ... cause there's really no real reason that I see other they don't think it's acceptable.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Excited to see how this thread develops.

[Yencat]

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You're really hung up on arguing about hats when the majority of the posts in this thread have been about the additional customization they were supposed to be adding and so far haven't.

BunniEclair has repeatedly stated they personally don't care all that much about hats but you keep bringing it up to the point it's going in circles.

Headgear is part of the discussion of course, but it's a drop in the bucket of the other issues the races have.

[redheadturk]

I just want male buns lol. Gender locks are bs.

[Colt47]

If I were picking between male and female unlocks and actual hairstyle + headgear support, I'm going for the latter. Ironically, I think that might be the harder of the two.

[Lanadra]

I just want male buns lol. Gender locks are bs.

You're not getting it. They said so from the start.

[EtherRose]

I really don't see a point in making another thread discussing this when there is already other major threads. Especially when we are 1 month from receiving any possible news regarding it.

[BunniEclair]

I really don't see a point in making another thread discussing this when there is already other major threads. Especially when we are 1 month from receiving any possible news regarding it.

The point of a megathread is to be a hub to discuss all of the things the other threads that keep popping up are addressing, with the thought that instead of making more threads they can just come here. To one big...megathread. There aren’t any other major threads discussing the current state of viera and hrothgar. Only two other major threads discussing male viera and female hrothgar specifically. The rest are passing gripe threads - usually triggered by something specific like the 2B hair or the Valentione event. Hope this helps!