To those that say FF14 is not a big dog in MMO's

[Axxion]

Extreme, Faux Hollows, Unreal.

Then what next after those two ? There is nothing else. Extreme can be done during a current expansion if you want or you can wait until the next expansion and do it unscync with no challenge at all. Unreal (someone correct me if im wrong) are just old extreme fights that are scaled to our current level, that sit on limited time. By which i mean that they do not keep them in game when they release the next one.

You can also say ultimate as well. But once you get all the weapons and/or the weapons you care for there is nothing else.

Savage as well. Same thing once you have the BIS what is next? Wait until next expansion do it unsync to do glamour/mount runs.

[ZedxKayn]

Extreme, Faux Hollows, Unreal.

They're literally the same thing.

[kidalutz]

I can live without Diablo 3 ripoffs like Mythic Plus.

[VelKallor]

I have seen on the WOW forums time and again:

"If you dont pvp raid or do mythic plus then maybe this game isnt for you"..just let that sink in a moment. Is THAT the kind of mentality we want?

[ZedxKayn]

I have seen on the WOW forums time and again:

"If you dont pvp raid or do mythic plus then maybe this game isnt for you"..just let that sink in a moment. Is THAT the kind of mentality we want?

It's the kind of mentality the GCBTW already has, except towards people who don't care about the story or are primarily interested in challenging content.

[Axxion]

I have seen on the WOW forums time and again:

"If you dont pvp raid or do mythic plus then maybe this game isnt for you"..just let that sink in a moment. Is THAT the kind of mentality we want?

I have no intention on playing wow. I do have friends that play it and they do tell me what goes on. For those that want a challenge outside savage, ultimate's, (only speaking for myself) I don't have that option. I want more reason to keep playing, I want more ways to improve what I already know. Or more information that i don't know. I enjoy what FF offers i do. But it needs to be a bit more. They need to have some midcore in it.

[VelKallor]

But it needs to be a bit more. They need to have some midcore in it.

On this, my friend, we agree.

[ItMe]

It's the kind of mentality the GCBTW already has,

What is this acronym?
GCBTW?

[Axxion]

What is this acronym?
GCBTW?

Great community btw

[Daibunnie]

I have seen on the WOW forums time and again:

"If you dont pvp raid or do mythic plus then maybe this game isnt for you"..just let that sink in a moment. Is THAT the kind of mentality we want?

As if the "you don't pay my sub" or "you pull you tank it" mentality is any better over here.