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  1. #51
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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hexie View Post
    My problem with the Nier stuff, not just the most recent one, is always the odd gendering of the gear- it's not locked specifically to one gender or the other, but the piece will display differently when it's on a male character vs. a female one. For example, the YoRHa Type-51 Jacket of Healing, on men:

    and women:

    As GrizzlyTank said before, it sucks to have your gear show an icon that looks nothing like what actually displays on your character.
    There are many other pieces of gear like this in all 3 alliance raids. Female characters always get a dress or extra skin windows, panties or a skirt instead of pants. In the newest alliance raid the scouting pants are camo for men and plain pattern for women (???). It's just a bummer when there are already so few "boyish" clothes for women.
    You know, and there's even another side issue here. They want different pieces for both gender, okay... but at least make the design consistent. Save for the pants and shoes, the tops don't even remotely resemble each other. If we didn't know already, I'd never have guessed it's the same item gender-shifted.
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  2. #52
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    BunniEclair's Avatar
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    Tea Cakes
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    Oh, yeah - don't get me wrong, I think they are very well made and would certainly use myself - but I'd rather have something that isn't redundant even if it ended in something that isn't my personal taste, as long as it's well made.

    That's the same thing about hairstyles. I know we got 9S's because he's 2B's companion, but... at the same time we already have a hairstyle that is extremely similar to his and available to both genders. I'd rather have his outfit as a coffer glam, same way we had the 2B's one in the first raid, if we could choose one thing or the other.
    Yeah, I feel you! And after two raids of Yorha outfits -and with the new raid having elements of Drakengard and the original Nier - they could have pulled from a number of characters for fend/maim. It actually kinda looks out of place next to the others. Like you said- very well made and suits my personal taste, but it lacks uniqueness the other sets have.
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  3. #53
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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Khit Amariyo
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    Leviathan
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Will always hate gender locked gear.

    When i get a pair of pants, and it has the icon of pants then i expect it to be pants and not a skirt when i wear it...
    *waves her usual "Please Give Me Pants" placard around, also points emphatically to her forum signature*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

  4. #54
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    *waves her usual "Please Give Me Pants" placard around, also points emphatically to her forum signature*
    Hey at least you get proper pants as healers this time around!

    Also I can't help but think of that one cartoon network super friends advert. "Solomon Grundy want pants too!"
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  5. #55
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    xxmiamorecadenza's Avatar
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    Miawkwa Fletcher
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    Golem
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Why men have to have all the pockets both irl and in-game.

    Gimmie pockets.

    Gimmie pants.
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  6. #56
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    ItMe's Avatar
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Hey at least you get proper pants as healers this time around!

    Also I can't help but think of that one cartoon network super friends advert. "Solomon Grundy want pants too!"
    Hahaha
    "Brainiac what is it?"
    "All I want is pants! A decent pair of pants!"
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  7. #57
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LindaVonRee View Post

    by the way, is gender-locked so I can't even wear it cause I play a female character. But yet you give us the gear for Devola and Popola for /both/ genders but can't do the same with 9S?
    I know I speak for many as well when I say that 9S’ glamour was literally the ONE THING we had been hoping for for over a year, along with other glamour items like the weapons and we had been hoping to get these for the longest time.
    I'm also pretty disappointed that there's been no 9S gear coffer... but also I'll add to your criticism that it's not only locked off by the sex of your character, but also by what job. If you play any job that's not monk/samurai or dragoon, then you can't use the Copied Factory sets to create that look and have to rely on outside pieces. And while this may be a tired argument... it just seems like more evidence of them catering more to female toons though hair and glamor than to male ones. We got the fan service panties... but not the male outfit.
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  8. #58
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I hope the flight unit mount is not put in as a mogstation item.
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  9. #59
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Job restrictions are also something i am vehemently against. They are almost always a "having the cake and eating it too" where the devs rarely adhere to their own restrictions, like Hilda the (Machinist?) using the hussar set which is exclusively restricted to DRG (Yes there are other variants of said set, but Hilda is explicitly using the DRG only one as seen on the red collar).

    Then there is the arbitrary role assignment like most common is tank/drg and healer/caster having shared looks, but then it's suddenly tank/monk, tank/ranged, tank/healer... and the only difference are colors and a coat.

    Just give players the same liberty to dress their characters with the same freedom as devs have when they dress npcs...
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  10. #60
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    Novae's Avatar
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    Novae Ombreloup
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I just want the girl in red’s boots. I hope we’ll get more from the weekly quests.
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