just reminding SE they added two new races last expansion ...

[Raikai]

HELLO yoshida ... i hope you still remember you added two freakin races last expansion ..they are called Viera and Hrothgar incase you forgot ...

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AND THESE BETTER BE WORKING ON MY VIERA ..


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thanks
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also i see i am being called rude which i am not going to argue with , i am sorry yoshida for yelling , but at least this way this post got more attention then my polite posts would normally do

I know this might be something weird to think, but... What if Viera didn't get the most recent hairstyles adapted because of Hrothgar?

Viera has basically a common humanoid head with ears sitting on top of the head... Even though the position is slightly different than a Miqo'te's, it wouldn't clip in many hairstyes, especially these ones, that have the head top pretty flat. Hrothgar on the other hand, is the first race to have have a non humanoid head, which would probably ensue much more work to adapt most of these styles, if not an actual 3D remodelling.

Thus they're not making some of these available for Viera because they can't afford the workload that would be to give it to Hrothgar as well.

[Akimori]

I know this might be something weird to think, but... What if Viera didn't get the most recent hairstyles adapted because of Hrothgar?

Viera has basically a common humanoid head with ears sitting on top of the head... Even though the position is slightly different than a Miqo'te's, it wouldn't clip in many hairstyes, especially these ones, that have the head top pretty flat. Hrothgar on the other hand, is the first race to have have a non humanoid head, which would probably ensue much more work to adapt most of these styles, if not an actual 3D remodelling.

Thus they're not making some of these available for Viera because they can't afford the workload that would be to give it to Hrothgar as well.

.......But its already modeled for the other races (which is 6 btw)...Saying that SE doesn't want to do this for Viera BECAUSE of Hrothgar is literally comparing apples to oranges...especially, which as you stated, Viera have a similarly shaped head to every other race in the game... Theres another reason behind it minus them wanting to give race specific hairstyles to the other 2 races

[lalin]

I know this might be something weird to think, but... What if Viera didn't get the most recent hairstyles adapted because of Hrothgar?

Viera has basically a common humanoid head with ears sitting on top of the head... Even though the position is slightly different than a Miqo'te's, it wouldn't clip in many hairstyes, especially these ones, that have the head top pretty flat. Hrothgar on the other hand, is the first race to have have a non humanoid head, which would probably ensue much more work to adapt most of these styles, if not an actual 3D remodelling.

Thus they're not making some of these available for Viera because they can't afford the workload that would be to give it to Hrothgar as well.

i would accept this happily , i would appreciate their honesty instead of promising us things they can't give .
if yoshida say it to our faces no you are not going to get any new hairstyles is 1000X than not saying anything at all .

[wereotter]

I know this might be something weird to think, but... What if Viera didn't get the most recent hairstyles adapted because of Hrothgar?

Viera has basically a common humanoid head with ears sitting on top of the head... Even though the position is slightly different than a Miqo'te's, it wouldn't clip in many hairstyes, especially these ones, that have the head top pretty flat. Hrothgar on the other hand, is the first race to have have a non humanoid head, which would probably ensue much more work to adapt most of these styles, if not an actual 3D remodelling.

Thus they're not making some of these available for Viera because they can't afford the workload that would be to give it to Hrothgar as well.

This may not be a reason... but what I've heard from people who use mods for the game is that viera hairstyles are actually stored in a different location in the game (forgive me if I'm wording this wrong, I'm not well versed in proper lingo) than other races, occupying the same spot on a character model as the legacy tattoo. Apparently they weren't able to do certain modifications without also removing that tattoo from the viera model. Depending on how many items can be stored into memory for that character customization slot, it could explain as well why the number of hairstyles for viera are limited, as well as why every new hairstyle doesn't immediately become available to them.

Specuating here... but it's also possible that they know immediately that not all hairstyles will work with every set of ears, either with the hair being so large as to make the lop-ears clip down through them, or with the hair being so short cropped that the ears would float off the top of the head.

[SturmChurro]

This may not be a reason... but what I've heard from people who use mods for the game is that viera hairstyles are actually stored in a different location in the game (forgive me if I'm wording this wrong, I'm not well versed in proper lingo) than other races, occupying the same spot on a character model as the legacy tattoo. Apparently they weren't able to do certain modifications without also removing that tattoo from the viera model. Depending on how many items can be stored into memory for that character customization slot, it could explain as well why the number of hairstyles for viera are limited, as well as why every new hairstyle doesn't immediately become available to them.

Specuating here... but it's also possible that they know immediately that not all hairstyles will work with every set of ears, either with the hair being so large as to make the lop-ears clip down through them, or with the hair being so short cropped that the ears would float off the top of the head.

Why does SE do things like this? That would actually explain why they would only add a limited number of styles, even if they were going to add any. I've speculated for awhile that they would have to do a full on overhaul to "fix" these races, and it makes even more sense now. They really did these races dirty, I think.

[BlitzAceRush]

Why does SE do things like this? That would actually explain why they would only add a limited number of styles, even if they were going to add any. I've speculated for awhile that they would have to do a full on overhaul to "fix" these races, and it makes even more sense now. They really did these races dirty, I think.

With how much strain the system appears to be under it appears to have been "do them dirty" or not at all. Personally I adore my Viera and if my options were never every get a hairstyle or hat, ever or them having just not adding them, I'd a thousand times take them as they are. I've never been happy on a race till they added Viera, course I'd welcome all the hairstyles and why I never really used hats save for one, I'd want them for all that want them, I'm content, I'm just happy to be happy with my character. I'm fine with waiting till if/when they expand on them, weather that's 6.0 or whenever they fabled engine overhaul comes.

[SturmChurro]

With how much strain the system appears to be under it appears to have been "do them dirty" or not at all. Personally I adore my Viera and if my options were never every get a hairstyle or hat, ever or them having just not adding them, I'd a thousand times take them as they are. I've never been happy on a race till they added Viera, course I'd welcome all the hairstyles and why I never really used hats save for one, I'd want them for all that want them, I'm content, I'm just happy to be happy with my character. I'm fine with waiting till if/when they expand on them, weather that's 6.0 or whenever they fabled engine overhaul comes.

I think it would have been better off if they had not done them at all, not in this limited state. At least not until their graphical overhaul - which will supposedly make these things easier. Of course SE saw the edition of both female viera/male hrothgar as worth the resources spent creating, and now maintaining them - and it probably was in fantasia sales and marketing for ShB, in the short term. Like I said, they would have to do a complete overhaul to "fix" them; in the long term this is detrimental to the races, and the game, in my opinion.

[LisSquid]

I think it would have been better off if they had not done them at all, not in this limited state.

There would have been hell raised, for sure, but the smart thing would have been for them to hold the new races launches until later in ShB's lifetime, or longer, until they were fit to push. It just feels like whoever they had on staff for their development hasn't been able to come back for scheduled updates.

[SturmChurro]

There would have been hell raised, for sure, but the smart thing would have been for them to hold the new races launches until later in ShB's lifetime, or longer, until they were fit to push. It just feels like whoever they had on staff for their development hasn't been able to come back for scheduled updates.

I don't see how. If they had never done them, they wouldn't have announced them, and the playerbase would have never known otherwise. It would have been another expansion launch, and players requesting new races now and again as usual. In so doing, there would have been more resources freed for other projects.