just reminding SE they added two new races last expansion ...

[MorionQ]

I’ve seen reports of random Hrothgar NPCs in Bozja have hairstyle/face combos not available to players. Not major, named NPCs, just background NPCs.

Still, I think Covid borked up minor projects like this.

[Awha]

Its not berating them for disagreeing. Its berating them for berating the players who try to start discussions about this sort of topic by calling them entitled, spoiled, etc etc. The point of my statement is that if they didn't have anything that actually progressed the discussion whether its them agreeing or disagree, but instead of just basically telling them to shut up because they're lucky we got Viera/hrothgar or something stupid, then.yea. Please read

Point is you are berating other players since at the core you are telling people if you do not agree with their statement then do not bother to post in the thread. By agree I mean you may not like their statement but you are in agreement with how they phrase or what their criticism is regarding the subject. In essence that is a case of entitlement.

That is the point I was making their message does progress the discussion cause unless it is blatantly trolling their opinion is still valid no matter how others may perceive it.

As I said though overall SE really needs to work on their communication with the community.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I’ve seen reports of random Hrothgar NPCs in Bozja have hairstyle/face combos not available to players. Not major, named NPCs, just background NPCs.

Still, I think Covid borked up minor projects like this.

Yugiri has had a face/horn combo unavailable to Au Ra players since she was first unmasked back in 2.55, so I wouldn't take that as an indicator of anything.

[Halivel]

IIRC FFXIV's dev team is larger than WoW's. An infographic from the Stormblood era showed that the game had about 300 devs. I don't think that the WoW team ever broke 200, and a lot of the WoW team devs have been siphoned off to other projects or laid off.

Blizzard's annual revenue was 8.09 billion $ in 2020, Square Enix's was 2.4 billion, almost 3.5 times lower. That said, the size of the team isn't everything. The budgets Blizzard and SE can spend on their projects simply isn't comparable. Some folks tend to think SE baths in gold - well, they don't, even though "2.4 billion" may sound like a huge amount of money (it is, but not with the amount of projects and, ironically, the amount of people they have. Sometimes bigger team means more issues than benefits, given you need to pay all these people their wages and additional expences like insurance and others, and this is just people inside the company without the cost of mainting and renewing servers and computers or spendings on marketing and all that, all of which doesn't come free either).

That's not much of an exuse to the fact Viera and Hrothgars didn't get even a single additional haircut in 2 years, but honestly this "small indie company" meme is tiring at this point - they aren't even in top 10 among GameDev companies in terms of wealth. Yes, they aren't an indie company, but they aren't nearly as rich as people apparently imagine them to be with all these SE vs Blizzard comparisons.

[Akimori]

Point is you are berating other players since at the core you are telling people if you do not agree with their statement then do not bother to post in the thread. By agree I mean you may not like their statement but you are in agreement with how they phrase or what their criticism is regarding the subject. In essence that is a case of entitlement.

That is the point I was making their message does progress the discussion cause unless it is blatantly trolling their opinion is still valid no matter how others may perceive it.

As I said though overall SE really needs to work on their communication with the community.

Im a bit confused...How is basically telling them to get lost because their "you're entitled" contents are putting down other players actually progressing the discussion....?

[spf1200]

I think racial issues are a bit more important than your EGI glamours but that's just me. I suppose your egi must be very upset not being able to wear any new hairstyles. But hey I won't trade my Viera alts I love them even with the limitations. I'm also reasonably optimistic we see significant additions with the upcoming xpac.

And I support those willing to let the devs know they're not happy.

Why is what you want more important than what others want? That's just being selfish. SE stated the Egis would get new skins every few patches along with a better system for applying them being worked on. It has be 4 or 5 years with no new info. You guys were told you would get new hair in the future and have be throwing hissy fits with every new hairstyle release.

[LaylaTsarra]

Why is what you want more important than what others want? That's just being selfish. SE stated the Egis would get new skins every few patches along with a better system for applying them being worked on. It has be 4 or 5 years with no new info. You guys were told you would get new hair in the future and have be throwing hissy fits with every new hairstyle release.

Oh hissy fits. Oh really. If you say so. Sorry but your pets aren't as important as the new race additions I hate to break it to you at least in my humble opinion. You're entitled to your opinion certainly but I'm sure people like myself with summoner roles on some alts could give a hoot about our egi.

The new race additions shouldn't be second class racial additions and deserve at least some love. They've gotten nothing in 2 years and that's simply ridiculous. If you can't find that there a a problem when new hats or hair are added for all the other races (events and patch updates) and they get nothing I don't know what to tell you. People with those races have every right to make their feelings known and I'm happy to see them do it.

I'll say prayers for your egi btw I promise every time I go to bed.

And I'll add that at the very least the director and development team owe the community a status update of what to expect and when and just maybe you wouldn't see threads like this popping up all the time.

[AnotherPerson]

Why is what you want more important than what others want? That's just being selfish. SE stated the Egis would get new skins every few patches along with a better system for applying them being worked on. It has be 4 or 5 years with no new info. You guys were told you would get new hair in the future and have be throwing hissy fits with every new hairstyle release.

I think that's because people were told they were getting new hairstyles later on in Shadowbringers expansion, but we're on patch 5.5 (which means 2 years has passed since ShB started). Egi glamours are also a valid concern too, but people are more afraid of races getting the egi glamour treatment (aka the feeling of infinite hiatus) since this is about a character's avatar and that has a lot more character customization involved than changing egis since a majority of the cutscenes involve your character as a whole whereas changing egis may not be applicable if you don't play Summoner.

[HollyJollyPaca]

I was thinking by the title this was a reminder to not ask for more races but HNNNNNG I-I'm fine....just trying to enjoy my bun bun WoL here. No regrets...none...[pours a drink for the upteenth time]

[Awha]

Im a bit confused...How is basically telling them to get lost because their "you're entitled" contents are putting down other players actually progressing the discussion....?

Because it is a general forum where people are free to state their opinions. The action of disagreement or wanting a certain feature are not what is considered entitled (cause SE did say they were coming, granted per covid) but the desire to not have people post because you may not perceive their input as fruitful to the conversation is though.

Forums are not meant to be echo chambers or player policed zones. Outside of certain cases anything added to a thread could be seen as a progressioning the discussion even if it is at the expense of the OP or those in supports feelings.

That is just me though never been a fan of the whole please don't post here if you do follow x y and or z. It is a general forum people should be encouraged to post. This is going off topic though.