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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But it is generally how SE takes feedback. 1 large thread is worth more than hundreds of small threads.
    Be that as it may (and it's not a given you're correct unless you are involved in SE's internal dealings), little things do build up. Will it work? Who knows. But both options are preferable over not saying anything at all. And the whole entitlement thing some people love to throw around is really getting old. But I get you. ^^
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    Be that as it may (and it's not a given you're correct unless you are involved in SE's internal dealings), little things do build up. Will it work? Who knows. But both options are preferable over not saying anything at all. And the whole entitlement thing some people love to throw around is really getting old. But I get you. ^^
    I mean, that is correct because SE has stated that's how they look at feedback on the forums.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    Be that as it may (and it's not a given you're correct unless you are involved in SE's internal dealings), little things do build up. Will it work? Who knows. But both options are preferable over not saying anything at all. And the whole entitlement thing some people love to throw around is really getting old. But I get you. ^^
    One large, concentrated thread is the way to go, but that seems to be a JP thing instead of an NA thing. Which to me would be all the more reason since it's a JP company. But...here we are, with multiple threads on multiple subjects because everyone has to make their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    One large, concentrated thread is the way to go, but that seems to be a JP thing instead of an NA thing. Which to me would be all the more reason since it's a JP company. But...here we are, with multiple threads on multiple subjects because everyone has to make their own.
    JP threads are absolutely massive, with dedicated threads for things. Over here we've got dozens of smaller threads for the same complaints.

    Similarly, the German threads and French threads are also absolutely massive, guaranteeing that the issues stay on the front page because people will keep talking about them in those threads whereas our issues tend to get pushed back because people keep making threads and then they fizzle out. They even have off-topic discussion threads in all three of the other language forums, yet over here every thread will get derailed with OT discussions.

    IMO someone should just make one massive thread for the bungirl and tigerboy complaints, and hopefully it'll make it so discussion remains in that specific thread. This way rather than fizzle out every few weeks, the megathread remains on the front page.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    JP threads are absolutely massive, with dedicated threads for things. Over here we've got dozens of smaller threads for the same complaints.

    Similarly, the German threads and French threads are also absolutely massive, guaranteeing that the issues stay on the front page because people will keep talking about them in those threads whereas our issues tend to get pushed back because people keep making threads and then they fizzle out. They even have off-topic discussion threads in all three of the other language forums, yet over here every thread will get derailed with OT discussions.

    IMO someone should just make one massive thread for the bungirl and tigerboy complaints, and hopefully it'll make it so discussion remains in that specific thread. This way rather than fizzle out every few weeks, the megathread remains on the front page.
    That would be ideal, yeah, but the only way I could see that happening on the NA side of things is by making this a requirement just to keep us looking decent and orderly. But seeing how certain pandemic restrictions were viewed...well...lol I'd expect there to be an uproar. "You can't tell us what to do, SE!" "Muh rights!" "But the ToS!" "I'll do whatever I want!"...and so on. I know what it's like living here. Much to my dismay, of course. It's just how things are, online or offline.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 04-12-2021 at 10:44 AM.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    This is literally the third or fourth hairstyle this expansion
    With these two it will be ten new hairstyles since 5.0 for the pre-ShB races.

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    because they've explained already both races would be limited and they were delivered because we wanted them so badly, but this would be the form we would get them in, and it's not a priority for them to resolve the headpiece/hair issue for them. Think about how much stuff inc the ultimate they're behind on, largely due to the pandemic and realise this is probably the last quality of life thing you're going to get.
    Not an excuse for saying nothing about it for almost two years, especially when they had said new hairstyles for us would come. Asking for information isn't expecting too much after so long. It doesn't cost loads of dev time to at least acknowledge the issue. Aside from that one comment at the beginning of the expansion we have gotten literally nothing.

    For many of us just SE letting us know that we're not forgotten would mean so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    It was expected that players who picked these races would understand this, apparently not. But then again, knowing this community, I remain unsurprised.
    I understood just fine that I would have access to very little hats and that I would have to wait for new hair. However we have been waiting for nearly an entire expansion without any scrap of an update on information so we doubt that it is even coming, meanwhile the pre ShB races are spoiled for choice. It does appear SE need a reminder that we exist because they're acting as if we don't. We even had an event in which one of two rewards, and the only glam piece, was not useable by the two new races.

    <insert comment here about how I know this community too so I shouldn't be surprised that yet another person tries to make us look like spoiled brats because we dare to ask for scraps over a two year period>
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  7. #87
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    I would like a mega thread about the Viera issue that focuses entirely on the unfulfilled promise about unique hair. Too many of these threads seem to derail or focus on the modern aesthetics, which we were never given any indication would be usable by Viera. Which then lets people detract from the fact Viera are missing the justification for their limited state by saying things like..

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRubyXII View Post
    It was expected that players who picked these races would understand this, apparently not. But then again, knowing this community, I remain unsurprised.
    It's the fourth hairstyle added to the game that Viera reasonably cannot use. It is also the fourth hairstyle to release while the Unique And Exclusive hair Viera were said to get did not come out. That should be the focus.
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  8. #88
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    It's not like players disgruntled by the limitations of viera/hrothgar, are some sort of hive mind. I post this all the time in these, but, generally, these threads are created by new or more inactive users. Granted, there are some here who do create threads on the same or similar subjects constantly.. I will usually use the search function if I have something, rather than create a thread, personally.
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  9. #89
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    I will say; to the people who are bleeding that "You're so entitled" type of aura, these threads are obviously NOT meant for you and if you aren't coming in here to help that cause of the players who are feeling left out, then leave. Your comments of "You're so entitled" or anything along those lines arent helping and are just straight up rude and very annoying to be quite frank. begone with you
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    JP threads are absolutely massive, with dedicated threads for things. Over here we've got dozens of smaller threads for the same complaints.

    Similarly, the German threads and French threads are also absolutely massive, guaranteeing that the issues stay on the front page because people will keep talking about them in those threads whereas our issues tend to get pushed back because people keep making threads and then they fizzle out. They even have off-topic discussion threads in all three of the other language forums, yet over here every thread will get derailed with OT discussions.

    IMO someone should just make one massive thread for the bungirl and tigerboy complaints, and hopefully it'll make it so discussion remains in that specific thread. This way rather than fizzle out every few weeks, the megathread remains on the front page.
    NA: no I have to make MY OWN thread so MY OWN UNIQUE idea gets ITS OWN place to shine and not SHARE SPACE with OTHER, WORSE, MORE BAD threads than MINE.
    or something like that.
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