Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Bright-Flower]

The ongoing cost is the issue. If it was just an upfront hurdle they could jump and then new races would be fine forever, I don't think it would be difficult to fill in the missing genders. But it's not that easy.

Honestly I expect them to eventually start trimming down to one job per expansion as well, maybe as soon as 7.0. The added overhead that keeps going forward is probably a part of why DNC and GNB had less weapon options at 5.0 than the 4.0 jobs did, though I think people over exagerate how few weapons they ultimately had.

[VirusOnline]

To say that Au Ra were "implemented to the fullest degree that the original races are" is misleading. There are several items that have tail slots for miqo'te but not Au Ra. Many hats and helmets have been designed to accommodate Miqo'te, Elezan and Lala ears, but Au Ra Horns just poke through. I haven't seen anything that seems to be specifically designed to accommodate Au Ra features.

The point is they cut corners, and then they cut corners further with Viera and Hrothgar. To implement a new race properly and completely not only has an initial cost, but also ongoing costs.

I think they should commit to completing Viera and Hrothgar, as that is consistent with initial ARR philosophy. However I think it is best for the game to avoid any new races. There a a lot of features that could be added to existing races to give players massively more diverse options without requiring massive gear redesigns.

I'm not gonna tell people they are wrong for wanting a new race, but I'm not going to back it either.

Ah, thanks for that. I very rarely play Au'Ra and don't wear hats all that much.
I agree fully. Overtime my views really have changed. I'm still very disappointed with how SE has handled the new races. The scalability of the entire character customisation and creation (especially in regards to hair, headgear, and head models) has been a downward slide and it's a pity.

The bigger question is, does anybody know if this is how SE actually runs their business and if for sure these are the issues going on?
Cause, I dont have any counter-arguments to the discussion, because I dont run a business, and Im not a dev at SE. To that effect, neither is anybody here. So while there is a chance many of you have at least a little knowledge on how things work, can you say for absolute certainty this is whats happening?

I see alot of "Shareholders need to be convinced" or "They should just hire more people" then there is "FXIV makes so much money so they should do this" and just alot of stuff.
But, it all sounds like personal opinion. And unless you actually work there at SE, its hard to really take any of this and believe it, because what YoshiP can share with us sounds abit more reasonable then just "They need more money. The money will overlap the costs"

Im more inclined to take YoshiPs word since he actually works there. Sure, it could just be corporate PR, but without actually having an insider look or knowledge on how things are running inside SE, its hard to take anybodies word here on what they think is going on.
And..despite it being a business like everything else: whos sole goal is of course to make money...I don't believe every company works the same or is run the same.
So, any talk about what Blizzard, Bethesda or Capcom does, I feel isn't the same as what Square Enix does.

Yes. Personal opinion, extrapolation of data, and observing first hand the results we are given.
No one but YoshiP and his people will know what truly goes on. But that shouldn't stop us from being allowed to have conversations about what we observe.

[-JayJay-]

Of note, there are two hrothgar in bozja that do have hairstyles outside of the typical ones available for their faces. One doesn't quite fit cleanly, and again, they're still only race specific ones... but it's something to maybe look forward to, at least.

After seeing this, I'm wondering if this means that they've had new hairstyles for both of the races developed for a while.

[RyuDragnier]

It wouldn't be surprising if they've already had new hairstyles ready, and have been trying to fix the hair/hat problem. Or if they've had all of this fixed for a while, and are working on something else. But I'm not getting my hopes up too much, I don't want to be emotionally destroyed (again).

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

To every Hrothgar Player

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Two more cause y'all adorable


I dont care what anybody else says <3

[Fukuro]

To every Hrothgar Player

let‘s hope one day we can do that to our hrothgal mommies too

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

let‘s hope one day we can do that to our hrothgal mommies too

Ill keep dreaming <3

[Vahlnir]

To every Hrothgar Player

Is this the mentality a lot of people have? I get a lot of pats when I play Hrothgar. lol

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Is this the mentality a lot of people have? I get a lot of pats when I play Hrothgar. lol

As a Cat person....yes :3
And you know if you were a Lupin, it might be worse XD

I bet alot of Good Boy and Nose Boops would ensue