RP Party finders being reported AGAIN without so much as a reason.

[Kaurhz]

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Yes and my remark was that very clause is in there so they can ban you at their discretion- Not a simple legal backout clause like you were implying. This very thread is a prime example of the GM explicitly telling the person what they do in no uncertain terms, hence why I mentioned it- I've already seen sufficient enough of your posts to know you don't defend nor condone the behavior exhibited, but again, it was an example to highlight evidence to the contrary. Besides, as I myself have highlighted, people that took the leisure to read the Privacy Policy then would understand that they are able to do a subject access request which will highlight logs associated with the warning or suspension in question.

I think people are free to engage in it, what people do in a mutually engaged conversation is their business and thus they're at liberty to report it as and when they wish. I don't believe people shouldn't do mature venues or anything, as I do actually think they're fantastic at highlighting some of the better parts of this community. Be it for a vibe where you feel like you're surrounded by proactive conversation or just people in general- What I don't condone and what I think is mutual amongst everyone here, alongside the people enforcing the terms is that advertising does not belong in the party finder. It is something that anyone, absolutely anyone can find on a whim- Mature or otherwise, so it opens up outlets for exposure to these people which they otherwise wouldn't be if people engaged in the activity behind closed doors, be it through Discords or otherwise. Of course, you should also exercise extreme caution in these matters because the nature of the venues can be extremely consequential to peoples' lives. Again, I don't really see them as equivalent, personally. So your strong suspicion is more than likely correct.

Sure, but again this opens up more avenues for criticism as far as the clarification of that clause would go. - People would very quickly be up in arms to push their victimization whilst subsequently ignoring the facts of their report, and this would only lead to people looking for ways to bypass this measure with equally ambiguous terms, ironically as evidenced by the OP. Or even more roundabout measures, akin to what the content selling community already does by offloading the reality of the situation to their own discords. I'd rather not see people resort to this direction. Heck, I've already seen people post "Well if the issue is about the 18+ tag, then why don't we just not use that tag whatsoever." - Paraphrased -- Funny enough, the very example you highlighted here; the OP was advertising a 'Night Club' which is construed as a mature activity where potentially illicit conversations could occur. This seems to be a commonality with all the reports having been carried out thus far, so as far as I am concerned I see this as someone that didn't do 1+1. Just take it for granted that until you're clarified directly; that all forms of mature solicited advertisements on the PF are not allowed, and thus can result in a sanction. You could argue the context of the phrase "The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly". But the fact of the matter is they're applying this universally as evidenced here.

[LianaThorne]

Good morning everyone o/

[Theodric]

As an aside, I've seen a lot of people claim that if ERP is done in private it's fine. It isn't - since the risk of being punished is still there. It just so happens that if two players get together and do it in private, they're unlikely to be caught unless one of them decides to file a report out of regret or revenge. Which, from what I hear, has happened more than once due to drama and arguments.

There's always going to be a risk, in other words. If people do it, there's a risk that they'll be punished if caught. I think the best stance to take is to just not do it altogether but if people do and are caught out? Well, perhaps instead of finding ways to evade punishment, they should simply accept that they did wrong.

I'll admit, I don't have any sympathy. I used to be a bright and enthusiastic role-player eager to head out into the game world on cool adventures. The sheer amount of people only after ERP and romance, however, simply led me to stop bothering. Again and again even those who swore up and down that they just wanted to role-play would turn out to actually only be after one thing and one thing only. When I attempted to speak out about that trend, I was told to stop bringing it up and made to feel unwelcome. Especially when I pointed out how predatory it was for supposedly respectable figures in the role-play community to eagerly invite new players to join their Free Company or events only to subtly nudge them more and more towards taking part in ERP.

My original stance was 'out of sight, out of mind'. Yet when legitimate role-players are being driven out of the community as a consequence, I can't help but take a firm stand. Most of this would be resolved simply by a bit more tact and subtlety. Strangers on the internet don't need to be exposed to random ERP, be it directly or indirectly.

[Saefinn]

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Thanks for your explanation. I think it's fair to say were mostly on the same kind of page. Except maybe on the points of offering clarity, but I think before I'd consider putting anything up for stuff I run see how these complaints run their course, see if non-ERP venues get hit...which of course the disingenuous methods like the OP of the thread pulled off doesn't help with that, but fortunately it was easy to cut through the BS on this one.

[RareItems]

All I see in this thread is the lack of things to do in this game resulting in a lot of bored ppl reporting random things haha. Go play another game while you wait for 6.0.

[Theodric]

All I see in this thread is the lack of things to do in this game resulting in a lot of bored ppl reporting random things haha. Go play another game while you wait for 6.0.

Resident Evil 8 isn't out until next month, though.

[Kaurhz]

Thanks for your explanation. I think it's fair to say were mostly on the same kind of page. Except maybe on the points of offering clarity, but I think before I'd consider putting anything up for stuff I run see how these complaints run their course, see if non-ERP venues get hit...which of course the disingenuous methods like the OP of the thread pulled off doesn't help with that, but fortunately it was easy to cut through the BS on this one.

I get where you get clarity from, it just still stands to gain people will use this clarity as a means of bypassing or adding further ambiguity into their advertisements, which can be a disservice to those using the party finder if they're attracted on false pretenses.

If you want clarification I would strongly recommend clarifying both in-game with a GM, and utilizing their support system, or encouraging those like the OP from the other thread to try and open up a dispute/appeal into their punishment- If it works you have your answer, if it doesn't then you have your answer.

All I see in this thread is the lack of things to do in this game resulting in a lot of bored ppl reporting random things haha. Go play another game while you wait for 6.0.

"All I see in this activity is the lack of things to do in this game resulting in a lot of bored people exercising in futile and illicit activities haha. Go play another game while you wait for 6.0."

[RareItems]

It's true thou, there's nothing to do ingame atm. Also Black Desert Online is a fun MMO you can play while you wait for 6.0. And all the ppl reporting PF's because they're bored should go out and do something else.

[Vahlnir]

All I see in this thread is the lack of things to do in this game resulting in a lot of bored ppl reporting random things haha. Go play another game while you wait for 6.0.

You could have at least tried to understand the debate being had here instead of...whatever this is.

[RareItems]

You could have at least tried to understand the debate being had here instead of...whatever this is.

It's a bunch of bored ppl reporting bored ppl trying to make the most out of their sub lol.