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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    Ill say this. Living Dead is a better designed cooldown then Superbolide. Living dead works as advertised. Superbolide still has a chance of tank dying in between hp going to 1 and actual invincibility.

    Furthermore, the biggest complaint from healers is, healing is too easy and nothing to do as healers because at endgame you heal for so much more. Regardless, people don't like the full heal requirement from living dead cause its somehow too hard?

    I think that the hyperbole of complaints leveled against Living Dead on these boards is unjustified.
    No tank except DRK force the healers burn they oGCD heals in less than 10s or the tank will die. WAR and GNB only require a oGCD and the regens from any healer, they powerful selfheals aka equilibrium and aurora top the rest of the HP and put them out of danger easily while DRK force his healers to burn all they heals on them in order to survive and don't provide any help in the process unless you have casually abyssal drain ready and abyssal drain heal is a joke on single target causing being a terrible annoyance for AST, SCH and the poor WHM that been catch off guard bcs he used benediction for whatever reason before and is on cooldown.

    Living dead is a wonderfull cooldown if the job have skills like equilibrium, nascent flash and thrill of battle to pale the harsh healing check the skill put on healers shoulders but since DRK is casually the tank with the least selfhealing potential makes Living dead a extremly poor designed skill with the current kit that accompanies him and the complaints are totally justified for it, i bet ppl wouldn't complain if DRK haved WAR selfhealing kit.
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    Last edited by shao32; 04-04-2021 at 08:49 AM.

  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    Superbolide still has a chance of tank dying in between hp going to 1 and actual invincibility.
    That was fixed long ago.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    Furthermore, the biggest complaint from healers is, healing is too easy and nothing to do as healers because at endgame you heal for so much more..
    I'm all for difficulty, as one can see on my many posts regarding complexity and how much I liked enmity before ShB.

    But Living Dead is just badly designed. I can't count how many times I had a Scholar not being able to heal me fully in earlier content, or AST for that matter. Difficulty is great when it serves a purpose, but when it's not incline with the overall progression of how the game has changed, it just stands in the way. If DRK had self-healing properties similiar to it's big brother WAR, then it might be fair to consider but that's sadly not the case.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    But Living Dead is just badly designed. I can't count how many times I had a Scholar not being able to heal me fully in earlier content, or AST for that matter.
    This is very true and very frustrating. And I've also had problems with WHMs healing through it too.
    On many occasions I've died despite getting a Benediction.
    It's left many scratching their heads and mumbling "something something server ticks?"
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    All good stuff. I'd like to see more interlinking of abilities, vaguely harkening back to and greatly improving upon old DA-CD interactions (which I considered something of a failure before--in that their being worthwhile or not was rarely all that interestingly situational--but a really interesting direction, at least), but these seem a great start.
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  6. #106
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    If you think that Living Dead is awful now, just wait until Endwalker's separation of healers into 'Pure Healers' and 'Shield Healers'.

    'Oh, sorry, I can't heal through that, I only do shields. Maybe join a double pure healer group.'

    The development team needs to acknowledge that there's a problem with this ability. They don't need a solution. They just need to acknowledge that there's a problem and that they're very, very sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    The development team needs to acknowledge that there's a problem with this [Living Dead]. They don't need a solution. They just need to acknowledge that there's a problem and that they're very, very sorry.
    In that context, the post from just before become all the more hilarious.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    On many occasions I've died despite getting a Benediction.
    It's left many scratching their heads and mumbling "something something server ticks?"
    You'd think that would be enough. Yet I could have sworn the tooltip is actually wrong. You don't need to be healed to 100% HP. You need to be healed for 100% of your HP. And Benediction doesn't heal for 100% of your HP; it heals for 1 HP less than 100%, since you'd have to already be dead to not have at least 1 HP prior to Benediction.

    But, hey, at least they know better than to worry about tooltip clarity on an already terrible concept.

    ...But somehow, not to fix said terrible concept...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    You'd think that would be enough. Yet I could have sworn the tooltip is actually wrong. You don't need to be healed to 100% HP. You need to be healed for 100% of your HP. And Benediction doesn't heal for 100% of your HP; it heals for 1 HP less than 100%, since you'd have to already be dead to not have at least 1 HP prior to Benediction.
    Oh god that would do it huh...
    And I suppose everyone's HP passively restoring over time doesn't help, huh...
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  9. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Oh god that would do it huh...
    And I suppose everyone's HP passively restoring over time doesn't help, huh...
    I would guess it doesn't count as healing done, no, just given how often I've died to a a Bene without any further damage taken and healed. Heck, if you're put in LD by a final blow without a DoT, you're dead regardless, as you can't otherwise lose that final 1 HP's worth as to then meet the LD requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    You'd think that would be enough. Yet I could have sworn the tooltip is actually wrong. You don't need to be healed to 100% HP. You need to be healed for 100% of your HP. And Benediction doesn't heal for 100% of your HP; it heals for 1 HP less than 100%, since you'd have to already be dead to not have at least 1 HP prior to Benediction.
    That's not true. It was a problem back in 3.0 when people tried to use Living Dead on Ravana Ex, but it was fixed in 3.01. The only way Benediction won't cleanse Living Dead is if you use it way too late, just like using any other cooldown too late.
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