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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
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    You're still not understanding the point I am trying to make. The game in general allowed you to make those real life connections, which gives the game some importance as a social medium.

    But the individual things in the game? They weren't important to the process.

    As for the things not being replaceable in real life (which I won't argue against, real life isn't built like a game), why do those things such value? Because of the memories they trigger. Even if the item is gone, those memories remain with you. It is still that people connection that is what was really important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    But the individual things in the game? They weren't important to the process.
    Uhh...you actually don't know this at all given you don't know my entire history with the game. A lot of good memories happened because of specific things in the game, including my house. I'm far from the only person who can say this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    As for the things not being replaceable in real life (which I won't argue against, real life isn't built like a game), why do those things such value? Because of the memories they trigger. Even if the item is gone, those memories remain with you. It is still that people connection that is what was really important.
    I don't actually have much of a connection to the dead family members who crafted those trinkets because I never met them. For my whole life they have been people in old sepia photos with some stories to go with them. However the things they made are truly beautiful, and I very much appreciate the talent and craftsmanship that they display. Because I never knew them those items are the only real connection I have to them. And these things they created tell me far more about them than an old photo ever could. If were to lose them I would lose the only meaningful connection I have to these people.

    As for the photo of my grandmother, yes it does trigger memories and they are more important than the photo. But it's the only way I can see her face again. Memories can fade with time but as long as I have the photo the image of her face never will.

    You and I clearly have very different life experiences and have a very different outlook on what matters. I think we will just have to agree to disagree. Neither of us are wrong. We're just different people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Uhh...you actually don't know this at all given you don't know my entire history with the game. A lot of good memories happened because of specific things in the game, including my house. I'm far from the only person who can say this.



    I don't actually have much of a connection to the dead family members who crafted those trinkets because I never met them. For my whole life they have been people in old sepia photos with some stories to go with them. However the things they made are truly beautiful, and I very much appreciate the talent and craftsmanship that they display. Because I never knew them those items are the only real connection I have to them. And these things they created tell me far more about them than an old photo ever could. If were to lose them I would lose the only meaningful connection I have to these people.

    As for the photo of my grandmother, yes it does trigger memories and they are more important than the photo. But it's the only way I can see her face again. Memories can fade with time but as long as I have the photo the image of her face never will.

    You and I clearly have very different life experiences and have a very different outlook on what matters. I think we will just have to agree to disagree. Neither of us are wrong. We're just different people.
    This is a video game, apologies, but really?

    I think real life issues > anything related to game, game items is dead items and can be gotten back over time for a dead currency that only work in the game... if game start to overshadow real life and what is in real life of important events, then may need to reconsider some things before keeping moving on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    This is a video game, apologies, but really?
    Maybe read the previous post and perhaps the tiniest part of you will understand why I don't consider this game to be merely pixels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    I think real life issues > anything related to game, game items is dead items and can be gotten back over time for a dead currency that only work in the game... if game start to overshadow real life and what is in real life of important events, then may need to reconsider some things before keeping moving on.
    Well this just proves you didn't read much of what I posted given I never said "game > real life" at any point. I was only explaining how digital things can be important to someone. And then explaining that not everything is replaceable whether it's digital or not.

    And this is all I will say on this particular matter because anything else would just be repetition.

    I would just like people to show more compassion to those who lost something that is difficult to replace through no fault of their own. That situation sucks no matter what you lost. I find some people's attitudes towards those who lost their house during the pandemic to be awful.

    Again I emphasise that I'm against a rollback. I think the only way to fix this situation is to have a proper housing system that excludes and punishes no one. Which likely won't happen -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Maybe read the previous post and perhaps the tiniest part of you will understand why I don't consider this game to be merely pixels.



    Well this just proves you didn't read much of what I posted given I never said "game > real life" at any point. I was only explaining how digital things can be important to someone. And then explaining that not everything is replaceable whether it's digital or not.

    And this is all I will say on this particular matter because anything else would just be repetition.

    I would just like people to show more compassion to those who lost something that is difficult to replace through no fault of their own. That situation sucks no matter what you lost. I find some people's attitudes towards those who lost their house during the pandemic to be awful.

    Again I emphasise that I'm against a rollback. I think the only way to fix this situation is to have a proper housing system that excludes and punishes no one. Which likely won't happen -_-
    I did read a lot of the things, not just your post, yours was the first one to come to mind, and yes... it seem like people want handouts, instead of being in the game, the time that it was in corona lock down, was and is long enough, you get information, when your stuff runs out, and gives you enough time to buy a month to log in and extent that time, you can keep just to the base subscription, that only permit one character as well, items should not be kept out of the game, so others can not get any fun with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    I did read a lot of the things, not just your post, yours was the first one to come to mind, and yes... it seem like people want handouts, instead of being in the game
    I don't know how my posts are related to anyone wanting a handout. Literally did not mention giving anyone anything for free. You can agree that losing something that you had no power to prevent sucks whether you agree with handouts or not. But it appears you're more interested in blaming people for their circumstances rather than acknowledge something called bad luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I don't know how my posts are related to anyone wanting a handout. Literally did not mention giving anyone anything for free. You can agree that losing something that you had no power to prevent sucks whether you agree with handouts or not. But it appears you're more interested in blaming people for their circumstances rather than acknowledge something called bad luck.
    I don't see a valid argument for the autodemolition to be be temporarely removed again, it is clear that we are going to live with the situation for years to come as it is, and keeping plots hostage for people that may not return for years is unreasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    This is a video game, apologies, but really?

    I think real life issues > anything related to game, game items is dead items and can be gotten back over time for a dead currency that only work in the game... if game start to overshadow real life and what is in real life of important events, then may need to reconsider some things before keeping moving on.
    It's entirely possible to form an emotional attachment to a game. Or anything, really. I have my own reasons for having them with this one, and there are certain objects in real life that evoke good as well as painful memories. Sure, real life takes precedence over any game, and this one is no exception...but you are missing the point entirely. That is probably because you just don't understand. It might take having certain experiences for that to happen though.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 04-05-2021 at 06:29 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.