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  1. #771
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    Vane Weaver
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    Possible spoilers here, warning in advance.

    I've begun to think that Yoshida's shirts were intentionally misleading (beyond just "lol it's totally not-not necromancer"), and in fact are pointing to an original job for the Warrior of Light.

    His first shirt, of course, was a "no comment" sweatshirt. This was assumed to just be a troll, but when you think about it "no comment" is pretty much WoL's modus operandi. His next, the Neighborhood shirt, has the skeleton saying "I'll be here if you need me" - Again, a staple of WoL. The third Children of Bodom shirt, which I think should be counted given the announcement and liveletter were conjoined events, of course features a reaper, and here's where it gets interesting.

    See, WoL is really, weirdly associated with death. Sephirot says WoL wields the power of death, Elidibus calls WoL death, WoL's own psyche says
    "Woe betide the man who stands opposed to the Weapon of Light, for death will be his reward. Death for him and his kin and all he holds dear. Woe betide the man who stands with the Weapon of Light, for death will be his reward. Death for him and his kin and all he holds dear."
    about them. In Amh Araeng, we learn that the Warrior of Darkness - Which of course WoL becomes - Is in fact a legend about a servant of death who brings it to everyone, basically a grim reaper figure. Shadowbringer's lyrics conclude with a chorus of the coming "end", Return to Oblivion's lyrics are about souls in the cycle of eternal rebirth yearning for oblivion, To The Edge's lyrics have the lines "Only alive in fighting Death's amber embrace", and WoL's Azem memory stone is the color of amber. Endwalker and what we hear of it's theme is of course entirely centered around endings and death.

    With all of this in mind, I'd like to make some wild speculation. The job itself may be called Reaper or something else, but I very much think it will be tied directly to WoL's Ancient origins, the job stone may even just be the Azem stone. I'd even go as far as to suggest that it might be MSQ mandatory rather than an optional side unlock. It's one thing to just take the scythe and skeleton shirt imagery and theorize on the job from there, but given they've been pushing all of these connections for quite a while, and now it's being tied into the job, I'm led to believe there will be something somewhat unique in store for this one.
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    Last edited by Veloran; 03-28-2021 at 06:18 PM.

  2. #772
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craiger View Post
    So I guess, if people really think the second shirt wasn't a hint, then Templar is plausible, but then they would be very similar to Paladin, and it would also mean Zenos is changing to some other job for some reason (he's not going to be a templar...)
    I feel like the whole Zenos needs a new weapon/new class is a red herring here. Most people are basing this idea that Zenos will take the new class because he needs a new weapon and trailer might be hiding said new weapon. This means nothing as the inference of a new weapon could just be an excuse to change Zenos's look and the throne could be hiding nothing. Furthermore, he is a katana user and the missing katana that hasn't cropped up as relic that appears in many final fantasies is the Masamune; given the story is connecting with Thavnairia who is well known for trading for rare materials and producing rare weapons feels like a chance to let that happen (and let's be honest Zenos is a rip off Sephiroth). Or the new "weapon" is a more powerful primal than Shinryu to mount and use, because he doesn't fear primals; primals are tools to Zenos.
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  3. #773
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    Narigo1's Avatar
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    Hugo Narigo
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    The new expansion has some FFIV elements in it. Both of the new jobs in this expansion are going be based on FFIV Lunarians. Paladin was WOL's job in the trailer.
    Cecil was a paladin. Fusoya was a sage and Golbez's job was a warlock/ Dark Magic knight.

    So the new physical dps job is going be based off Golbez imo
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    Last edited by Narigo1; 04-03-2021 at 04:24 AM.

  4. #774
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    Leon Keyh
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    If it weren't for the fact that status effects aren't really used in FF14, I would be leaning toward Templar/Temple Knight:

    https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Templar_(Tactics)

    That _might_ still be it, just changed a lot from how it was in tactics, but is it still a Temple Knight in that case? It would be interesting having something that combines melee and magic (I realize RDM and PLD exist, but they are mainly one thing with a burst window of the other, I'm talking about a rotation that looks like Melee->Melee->Magic->Melee->Magic->Magic or something) I'm sure something like that would be a little frustrating though.
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  5. #775
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    New 5.5 trailer shows Zenos pulling a katana out of a group of weapons.

    Anyone still think the no evidence 6.0 trailer is "hiding" a scythe?
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  6. #776
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    New 5.5 trailer shows Zenos pulling a katana out of a group of weapons.

    Anyone still think the no evidence 6.0 trailer is "hiding" a scythe?
    i dont think they are gonna show what weapon he chooses in the trailer for 5.5. That's more something they would still keep hidden until the actual patch. Or even until part 2 of the patch
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  7. #777
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narigo1 View Post
    The new expansion has some FFIV elements in it. Both of the new jobs in this expansion are going be based on FFIV Lunarians. Paladin was WOL's job in the trailer.
    Cecil was a paladin. Fusoya was a sage and Golbez's job was a warlock/ Dark Magic knight.

    So the new physical dps job is going be based off Golbez imo
    I don’t know. Things are lining up strangely to be honest. FFXIV names Sage as the new healer and Black Desert Online named Sage as their new magical ranged dps. Now if SE announces warlock with a scythe weapon as the new melee job I will just lose it haha because Blade and Soul’s warlocks 3rd spec will use a scythe as well. At that point I will literally question if all these developers sit in a room and discuss new classes/jobs to come up with together.
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  8. #778
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    Ramesses's Avatar
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    Personally-- like I've already speculated in this thread-- I reckon the possibility still remains for the new job to be a VOID MAGE, VOID MASTER, VOID KNIGHT, VOID TEMPLAR-- or simply a TEMPLAR that uses Void based skills-- like a mage-knight.

    The snippet from the Save the Queen battle notes regarding the "mage-knights of Landis" still continues to remain a smoking gun for me. As mentioned within those notes, before the Garleans absorbed Landis --Noah Van Gabranth's original homeland-- one of their cities (Mannatheihwo) was home to a company of mage-knights.

    Thus-- a scythe-welding Templar "mage-knight" with Void skills still remains my first guess. Could be a silly thought, plus I do have other jobs in mind-- but weirder things have happened.
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    "After ten years, finally headed to Sharlayan... absolutely stoked"


  9. #779
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramesses View Post
    Personally-- like I've already speculated in this thread-- I reckon the possibility still remains for the new job to be a VOID MAGE, VOID MASTER, VOID KNIGHT, VOID TEMPLAR-- or simply a TEMPLAR that uses Void based skills-- like a mage-knight.

    The snippet from the Save the Queen battle notes regarding the "mage-knights of Landis" still continues to remain a smoking gun for me. As mentioned within those notes, before the Garleans absorbed Landis --Noah Van Gabranth's original homeland-- one of their cities (Mannatheihwo) was home to a company of mage-knights.

    Thus-- a scythe-welding Templar "mage-knight" with Void skills still remains my first guess. Could be a silly thought, plus I do have other jobs in mind-- but weirder things have happened.
    I think we're getting too specific, as Mystic Knight is a thing, but wouldn't need to be limited to void skills or a scythe.
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  10. #780
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    I think we're getting too specific, as Mystic Knight is a thing, but wouldn't need to be limited to void skills or a scythe.
    ...And what's wrong with being specific with my speculation on the matter? Why be vague about it?
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    "After ten years, finally headed to Sharlayan... absolutely stoked"


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