Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Vahlnir]

I still firmly believe he misspoke when he said that. It would make Zero Sense for the Hrothgar, an Anthropomorphic Felidae Race to have Canine/Dog faces.
Plus they'd have to further redesign gear more to compensate for longer Muzzles.

I was under the impression that we had one already. One of the faces looks a little more canine than feline, or at least it does to me. The first time I saw it the first thing I thought of was a wolf.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I was under the impression that we had one already. One of the faces looks a little more canine than feline, or at least it does to me. The first time I saw it the first thing I thought of was a wolf.

I can see that he looks 'Wolfish' in the sense of how he is designed; from the choice of fur color and the outfit. Then the way the ears are made, and the longer Canines/Fangs, it all comes together to give a Wolfish Feel.
But nope, that is 100% Feline my dude. If he had a longer snout, you could argue it might be a Wolf

[KizuyaKatogami]

It is very weird. I think maybe they just forgot about hrothgar and viera with all the other ongoing issues going on since ShB release. It has been patches as usual with hair options for everyone else, etc. Like they had a set schedule, and didn't have viera/hrothgar planned ahead of time. If I recall correctly, Yoshida did say to look forward to fanfest or whatever in May in reply to a further character customization question - so yeah, maybe we really will see something there. I hope he wasn't just saying to "look forward", I think we've all been burned enough times..

SE's quality is all over the place, really. Still, you are right it has been a long time, and it would be logical for them to update the creator, or add options (if they could), to keep up with their competitors. I just tend to keep my expectations, or hopes, low now..

He also said look forward to fanfest when people asked about Male Viera back in pre shb. The man likes crushing hopes so i wouldn’t get your hopes up lol

[Vahlnir]

I can see that he looks 'Wolfish' in the sense of how he is designed; from the choice of fur color and the outfit. Then the way the ears are made, and the longer Canines/Fangs, it all comes together to give a Wolfish Feel.
But nope, that is 100% Feline my dude. If he had a longer snout, you could argue it might be a Wolf

I'm fully aware I'm looking at a cat, but they created a face that resembles something else without deviating too much from the core design. And that is most likely all the further they would take the idea of more canine faces going forward. It'd be more work to add longer snouts which I highly doubt would happen.

[Lauront]

To remind people again, from a DEV standpoint, it would not make sense to keep 'fixing' something broken if you plan on completely overhauling it in the near relative future. The caveat being if its something completely game breakingly broken (like a class/skill issue).

This is what I suspect is the case. They pushed out Hrothgar and Viera on a tight schedule due to some internal back and forth issues. They then received backlash for them being sex locked - (Agree or not with it, when your audiance audibly groans during your press release, that is a real bad sign.) It is obvious to anyone that Viera and Hrothgar are only 'semi functional' from a character builder standpoint compared to all the other races. Then covid hits and causes even more problems. Along with this, you have more and more calls to revamp character creator.

You put all these factors together, the logical thing for SE to do is rebuild/heavily update the character creation engine. This would allow 3 things to happen:

1) More character customization, which is exactly what is being requested.
2) You can fix the Hrothgar/Viera limitations that exist due to the hang ups of the old engine.
3) You can implement the off sexes more effectively, as the whole process of going over every single armor and gear pieces - the primary limitation of adding new races/sexes - would be more streamlined in the back end.


So it is at least plausible that they decided at some point to just focus heavily on the engine and stop trying to fix the current Hrothgar/Viera issues as that would just be a bandage at best and a sizable resource drain. I think this is more likely simply because of how quiet theyve been about everything. It's not like people havent stopped complaining about the limitations so I doubt they just forgot or wrote it off as good enough. Particularly if these are the same devs that took it upon themselves to give us a handful of headgears by spending their own time doing it, despite YoshiP telling them it wasnt on the agenda.

Agreed on points 1-3, and I have always thought that would be the most logical approach to it. He's made murmurs in a recent interview, which make me think that, coupled with comments about how long they want the game to go on, they are now seriously looking at it as a project. Comments before SHB were more tentative, even if the intention was there.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I'm fully aware I'm looking at a cat, but they created a face that resembles something else without deviating too much from the core design. And that is most likely all the further they would take the idea of more canine faces going forward. It'd be more work to add longer snouts which I highly doubt would happen.

Like, might as well just make a new race right?
Or even update the Lupin and make them playable? -hint-hint-wink-nudge-eyebrowiggle@YoshiP-

[Vahlnir]

Like, might as well just make a new race right?
Or even update the Lupin and make them playable? -hint-hint-wink-nudge-eyebrowiggle@YoshiP-

I'd be 100% okay with that.

[Penthea]

Back to show my hidden brothers some support. We promise all of Eorzea isn't as bad as the seedy parts of Limsa. Please join us!

[Awha]

Personally I wish they just made lupin playable.

[Lauront]

I wish we'd just gotten Byakko-styled Hrothgar. ;.;