Major changes needed for housing

[Divinemights]

It can if they limit the population per server AND only have personal housing.

They probably won't do it since they're too nice sometimes and may not want to upset existing owners (especially FC owners), but it's certainly a possibility.

You are saying this only because you are base on the assumption that Japanese have same standard server and networking technology like Western gam companies; but they don't
Their technology is way behind because they are too over emphasized on console than PC over there, in another world, PC is not a master race there and console is.
Although SE is one of the better Japanese company but their technology is still behind by a decade, where both Chinese and Korean are far more advanced.
The best example is Genshin Impact, the wet dream that all Japanese gaming companies want but can't not achieve.
They even have an internal review between companies to see why and how Chinese is able to achieve this.

There is also a podcast where an Asian gaming publisher explaining why they are able to host WoW but unable to publish FF14 due to SE's ridiculous demanding of physical space due to their outdated and over complicated server structure.
Also, to top that, SE's primary concern is stability over efficiency so they are sticking to one Japanese server supplier and that supplier only, there will be no break through but you will not see loging issue every major patch like you seem in WoW.
Asking SE to put more servers for housing ward is unreal and practically unachievable.
By putting up a house wards they requires several servers just to handle the chat functions (ls, FC, CWLS) alones, so you can stop dreaming ask asking something more practical

[linayar]

What should the limit be?
We already can't make characters on congested worlds, so I assume the idea is to lower the limit?

No, we can just keep that limit.

By putting up a house wards they requires several servers just to handle the chat functions (ls, FC, CWLS) alones, so you can stop dreaming ask asking something more practical

You don't seem to realize that I'm not asking for something that they're not already doing.

You want them to modify apartments. Maybe they should, but instead, they've chosen to keep adding wards instead.

So if that's what they want to do, all I'm saying is if they make all housing personal and keep a strict limit on the total number of characters that can exist per world, they will eventually have enough houses for every character that wants a house.

I'm not the one telling them to do something they can't do. They've chosen this method of adding wards all along, so it's their call if they think it's feasible.

[LianaThorne]

No, we can just keep that limit.

You don't seem to realize that I'm not asking for something that they're not already doing.

You want them to modify apartments. Maybe they should, but instead, they've chosen to keep adding wards instead.

So if that's what they want to do, all I'm saying is if they make all housing personal and keep a strict limit on the total number of characters that can exist per world, they will eventually have enough houses for every character that wants a house.

I'm not the one telling them to do something they can't do. They've chosen this method of adding wards all along, so it's their call if they think it's feasible.

They're not going to make all housing private though or they would have already. If it was some simple/no brain thing that it's being made out to be in this thread, they would have done it already. They're also not gonna rip houses away from people for the sake of others and risk pissing off current homeowners. Honestly, the reality of what is probably gonna happen is that nothing is gonna change. We're most likely getting the exact same set up as when Shiro launched when Ishgard rolls around with the farms being the compromise for not having private instanced housing.

[Ravenwatch]

I just want to register into some kind of lottery for an open plot with a gil deposit. T_T

[Divinemights]

I just want to register into some kind of lottery for an open plot with a gil deposit. T_T

What do you think your odd is going to be instead of compete with 15 ppl and suddenly you are against whole sever?

[Ravenwatch]

What do you think your odd is going to be instead of compete with 15 ppl and suddenly you are against whole sever?

I suppose to elaborate, you could register at the placard itself with a deposit(1 enrollment at a time). I don't think the whole server would be competing, it'd just save you from clicking after enrollment and the timers would continue as usual.

On my server, placards are currently riddled with bots that spam click hours after placards are sold to them. Reports in the past seem to change nothing. I'd take my chances with a lotto system.

[Divinemights]

On my server, placards are currently riddled with bots that spam click hours after placards are sold to them. Reports in the past seem to change nothing. I'd take my chances with a lotto system.

I suggest more effort to put into your thought
Let's say if your idea by slightest chance becomes reality, there will be a PSA from patch note; in which, anyone who do not have a house will be actively looking for one.
So, yes, you will be compete against whole server
Currently, you don't have a lot competition because not many are willing to camp absurdly. They will try their luck once a while then give it up.

[Ravenwatch]

I suggest more effort to put into your thought
Let's say if your idea by slightest chance becomes reality, there will be a PSA from patch note; in which, anyone who do not have a house will be actively looking for one.
So, yes, you will be compete against whole server
Currently, you don't have a lot competition because not many are willing to camp absurdly. They will try their luck once a while then give it up.

Not sure what you mean by "more effort to put into your thought", but I feel like you're missing the point and your argument is "you have a better chance because the system is bad, so it should stay how it is."

"Whole server" is also hyperbole. Again, if they fixed the rampant botting, the argument of camping placards would fit your claim of being viable.

[Arillyn]

It can if they limit the population per server AND only have personal housing.

They probably won't do it since they're too nice sometimes and may not want to upset existing owners (especially FC owners), but it's certainly a possibility.

They are not going to make housing only personal. Originally the housing was supposed to be only FC and personal housing was supposed to be something else. Then SE changed that and threw personal into the wards. If anything were to change here, they'd kick out personal housing and make wards FC only. That would fit their original design, and give more people access to houses.

[Melichoir]

Simple fixes are as follows:

1) FC must have existed for at least 30 days prior to purchasing plot

2) FC must have a minimum level of 5 before being able to purchase a small plot, Level 10 for medium plot, and level 15 for large plot. You cannot relocate to a plot that is larger than your current plot unless you meet the level requirements.

3) FC must have a minimum member count of 4 active people at any given time. The following criteria must be followed to be considered active:


- Must have been online in the last 30 days for at least 1 session of 15 minutes or more.
- Characters must be level 30 and above in at least one combat class to be considered active.

FCs that do not meet the 4 person criteria will be unable to purchase land. Demo Timers will be activated if the FC falls below 4 person criteria listed above. Furthermore, you will not be able to relocate while you have less than 4 active members. You will not be able to transfer Guild Ownership while having less than 4 active members.

4) FC leaders must have a minimum combat class LVL of 50. Characters cannot be passed Leadership if theyre under level 50.

5) You can only be leader of 1 FC per data center. You will be ineligible for transfer rights otherwise.

6) Ownership can only be passed once every 35 days. You can only relocate once every 35 days. These timers share the same CD - meaning if you transfer Ownership, you must also wait 35 days to relocate. Inversely, if you relocate, you must wait 35 days to transfer ownership.

7) Add a captcha like function when purchasing a plot (this is to combat bot purchases).



The goal ultimately isnt to make it impossible to game the system. I dont think that is a feasible goal. Rather, you could still sell an FC but the ability to do so becomes such a hassle that it isnt cost effective to do it.

As for legacy ownership, the easiest way to handle this is anyone who holds multiple properties on the same server (particularly multiple FCs), the demo timer will be initiated on ALL properties until the person only owns 1 FC per data center and 1 Personal house per server. If the owner transfers FC ownership to another player, the previous rules will kick in, and prevent the FC from being transferred back. Demo timers cease once a player is down to the property limits. With this system, it forces players to choose which properties they want to hold. And yes, you can actually lose ALL properties if the demo timer ends and you havent fulfilled the criteria required to keep a private house and an FC plot.