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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Request: Please add Bozja Relic items to the Duty Roulette bonus

    TL : DR Putting relic items on the various Duty Roulettes allows for daily progress and future proofs synced content that might be dead in a year or more while at the same time helping people who need leveling content most.

    Pretty simple concept.

    People currently are cheesing ST / Ivalice raids with BLUs and aren't really helping the people who need this content ran the most.

    Adding relic items to certain roulettes would incentivize people to play them.

    When was the last time someone did an 80 Roulette (not expert)? The rewards for it are terrible.

    The 50/60/70 rewards are really bad currently as it is and many don't run them because of it.

    The same goes for normal raids, alliance raids, pvp roulette etc etc.

    I have every job at 80 and I don't even think to run these things because it is pointless for me to do so. I'd like to help people out if given the proper incentive.

    If people want to rush Castrum Litore and Delubrum Reginae, because they love that content, let them.

    Give other people a reasonable daily "other" way to accomplish this. 15 days per step isn't really that much. This also allows for future proofing the content when Bozja is completely dead in an expansion or two and no one is running the 48 man raid required to complete it.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 03-21-2021 at 01:41 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Astrid Arkwright
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    I think putting them in PotD was their way of future proofing it. Unfortunately for me I find both PotD and DR extremely tedious. I wouldn't mind having other ways of getting the items but I'd be surprised if they added them to anything else.

    ALSO I would love if they included PvP as a way to progress these things! I remember grinding out light for a few Anima weapons back in HW doing frontlines and it made the experience more enjoyable for me.
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    I feel bad for anyone wanting them in the future. Good thing I never need relics again
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    Hopefully they add this in 5.5, I only finished 2 ilvl 515 relics, and I already want to kill myself running anymore DR. And yes, I do rotate my jobs when I do them and still find them mind numbingly boring after 30+ runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    I think putting them in PotD was their way of future proofing it. Unfortunately for me I find both PotD and DR extremely tedious. I wouldn't mind having other ways of getting the items but I'd be surprised if they added them to anything else.

    ALSO I would love if they included PvP as a way to progress these things! I remember grinding out light for a few Anima weapons back in HW doing frontlines and it made the experience more enjoyable for me.
    The only way to make the relic grind efficient in PoTD is to do a set group and go past floor 100. It's kind of crazy the amount of time you have to set aside to get the relic parts out of there, but it definitely beats the average DR runner by a mile once you get to floor 100+.
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    It will literally never be hard to get into the 50/60/70 alliance raids. People will always be doing them for one reason or another. They aren't dead now and they won't be in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I'd like to help people out if given the proper incentive.
    And honestly this... I don't think you understand how scummy that sounds. If you actually like to help people, you wouldn't need an incentive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    It will literally never be hard to get into the 50/60/70 alliance raids. People will always be doing them for one reason or another. They aren't dead now and they won't be in the future.



    And honestly this... I don't think you understand how scummy that sounds. If you actually like to help people, you wouldn't need an incentive.
    If offered an incentive than the question is if someone is doing it to help them or just help themselves by working with like minded individuals. Either way, I think incentives are pretty important for content to be done, though PoTD is up there with PvP and Bazja as far as repetitive content goes. I still say that PoTD is better than Eureka ever was, along with the new Bazja and Savage DR. Challenge should be from the content, not from the coordination needed to run the content.
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    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Alessia Adaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    It will literally never be hard to get into the 50/60/70 alliance raids. People will always be doing them for one reason or another. They aren't dead now and they won't be in the future.



    And honestly this... I don't think you understand how scummy that sounds. If you actually like to help people, you wouldn't need an incentive.
    Can't speak for others.. but I run roulettes for the rewards.. not specifically to help others. Helping others by filling the numbers for otherwise potentially dead dungeons (looking at you Praetorium and Meridianum) is the happy and intended side effect. By providing people who've done the content already incentive to keep doing it, you help people who still need it done.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanadra View Post
    Can't speak for others.. but I run roulettes for the rewards.. not specifically to help others. Helping others by filling the numbers for otherwise potentially dead dungeons (looking at you Praetorium and Meridianum) is the happy and intended side effect. By providing people who've done the content already incentive to keep doing it, you help people who still need it done.
    Yeah, I'll lend a hand if someone asks (provided no one else speaks up) but I'm not running the roulettes purely out of the goodness of my heart. I'd wager very, very, VERY few people approach them that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanadra View Post
    Can't speak for others.. but I run roulettes for the rewards.. not specifically to help others. Helping others by filling the numbers for otherwise potentially dead dungeons (looking at you Praetorium and Meridianum) is the happy and intended side effect. By providing people who've done the content already incentive to keep doing it, you help people who still need it done.
    I would argue on the contrary that it's borderline abusive of SE to tell people who are paying sub that if they wanna progress on the brand new thing, they have to go do almost 10 year old content. ARR was a terrible expansion, and I was ecstatic to be over and done with it, because I thought I wouldn't be dragged back kicking and screaming every bloody patch.
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