Shadowbringers Healer Role: Complaints, Feedback, and Suggestions

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Am I living under a rock? No but thanks for asking. Anyway, all I’m saying is Sch was overpowered. Only using whispering dawn is barely healing. Which allot of people who played scholar did. Also this was back when embrace was very op as well.

The general complaint among scholar mains isnt about scholar being overpowered, its about how it lost its damage rotation. its not an issue of numbers but of gameplay. maybe nerfing the fairy was justified, but getting rid of miasma, miasma 2, shadowflare, bane and selene's unique actions wasnt.

They barely casted adlo or succor.

A good scholar still rarely if ever casts adlo or succor.

Yoshi P even acknowledged that scholars were leaving most of the healing to whm and Astro so let’s not act like that didn’t exist.

Ultimately SE is the one with the most data, but thats questionable when you see things like this. https://prnt.sc/10pcyqv
Seeing raw HPS statistics is kind of meaningless on its own, but when most runs with best combined healer look about even, i dont really know where that came from. http://prntscr.com/10pd0w8

And who said anything about spamming gcd heals? I don’t think I mentioned that. I’m not blind that healers have ogcds. I’m talking about the healers who only heal with ogcds and if they don’t have one ready then the heck with it.

Thats literally how all healers play at the moment. In fact every extreme trial and savage fight this expansion except for 11s and 12s can be healed without either healer using a single gcd heal. this was also a thing during stormblood. nothing changed in that regard

So let me get this straight. You want a dps rotation for healer so you’re not just spamming one button because that’s boring? I see. So Whm and Sch were not boring in ARR or in HW when Astro joined or in SB. It’s only now in SHB they are boring? They didn’t have dps rotations before either. So I’m asking you to educate me on what is different now than it was back then. Give me examples from all perspectives. Whm, Sch and Astro. I only see scholar as the one that truly had a slight dps rotation and it was butchered. So educate me please. I’m asking.

Maybe they didnt have "rotations" but they all had more DoTs to keep track of. Even that state of affairs is better than what we have now:
Heavensward:
- WHM has assize, POM, aero 1, aero 2, aero 3, cleric stance dancing
- SCH has bio, bio ii, miasma, miasma ii, shadowflare, cross classed aero, cleric stance dancing
- AST has combust ii, combust, cross classed aero, cleric stance dancing
SB
- WHM has assize, POM, aero2 and aero 3, cleric stance as a boring cooldown
- SCH has bio ii, miasma, miasma ii, shadowflare, cleric stance as a boring cooldown
- AST has combust ii, cleric stance as a boring cooldown
ShB
- Whm has assize, POM, Dia
- Sch has biolysis
- AST has combust iii

Healers didnt have full fledged dps rotations, sure, but they at least had several dots to keep track of. They keep removing more and more skills until eventually we'll just have stone/broil/malefic. You can have the opinion you want to have about cleric stance, but i at least liked stance dancing as you needed to be smart about when to weave your heals to get the most dps uptime.