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  1. #21
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    This is a Blatant disregard for the fundamental principles on which this series built it's greatness. A Final Fantasy game is a Final Fantasy because it has an Original World with Original Characters in an Original Story. This is something that we cannot be disregarded. This is not Kingdom Hearts.

    This kind of laziness has gotten bad enough that even SE had to admit that it's latest entries into the series had diverged to greatly from the Series fundamental principles. Yoshida should not be aloud to do further damage to the brand by opting out of creating new experiences in favor of rapidly releasing content from Old Final Fantasies.This series and this MMO cannot survive by trying to play off the gimmick of previous installments popularity. It is morally reprehensible and dishearteningly lazy.

    If you are going to be in Charge of a Hallmark Series like Final Fantasy, you must have the Vision to expand on and the Vigilance to protect the Integrity of the Series.
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    I dont see how "releasing content based in Worlds from previous FF titles" becomes "we will visit worlds from previous Final Fantasy games"

    Yoshida just refers to calling the Casino Gold Saucer, not actually re-creating Gold Saucer un Eorzea.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    I dont see how "releasing content based in Worlds from previous FF titles" becomes "we will visit worlds from previous Final Fantasy games"

    Yoshida just refers to calling the Casino Gold Saucer, not actually re-creating Gold Saucer un Eorzea.
    This is true, perhaps I've merely misinterpreted the posting. It seems more likely that you are correct.
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    This series and this MMO cannot survive by trying to play off the gimmick of previous installments popularity. It is morally reprehensible and dishearteningly lazy.
    Hahahaha what

    Take a deep breath.

    What the hell about Jobs, name callbacks, spell names, chocobos, moogles, Cid, etc? There is nothing wrong with bringing some stuff that will cater to nostalgia of people that played these games throughout the years, especially because this game as it launched was extremely foreign and didn't feel like part of the series at all.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    I dont see how "releasing content based in Worlds from previous FF titles" becomes "we will visit worlds from previous Final Fantasy games"

    Yoshida just refers to calling the Casino Gold Saucer, not actually re-creating Gold Saucer un Eorzea.
    I believe you are correct, but until I see them say that, I will be vehemently opposed to the prospect of any cross FF world game play. It is not ok.

    I am in full support of taking aspects of previous games and adapting them to FFXIV, that is something that has always been done in this series, but under no circumstances should the actual world or characters from any other Final Fantasy appear in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    Hahahaha what

    Take a deep breath.

    What the hell about Jobs, name callbacks, spell names, chocobos, moogles, Cid, etc? There is nothing wrong with bringing some stuff that will cater to nostalgia of people that played these games throughout the years, especially because this game as it launched was extremely foreign and didn't feel like part of the series at all.
    There is a very large difference between Referencing famous names and creatures, as they have since the beginning of the series, and letting You jump between the world of the different games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    I believe you are correct, but until I see them say that, I will be vehemently opposed to the prospect of any cross FF world game play. It is not ok.

    I am in full support of taking aspects of previous games and adapting them to FFXIV, that is something that has always been done in this series, but under no circumstances should the actual world or characters from any other Final Fantasy appear in this game.
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    Account deactivated. Holding out for Guild Wars 2.

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    Could have easily been a typo of "based on" since o and i are right next to each other.
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    midgar or gold saucer from ff7, Zanakand or Luca from 10, the Spacestation from 8 cause who doesnt want to be in space.
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    Cameo references are fine (which is typical for all FFs), but FFXIV needs to be its own Final Fantasy. Right down to the core.

    the Spacestation from 8 cause who doesnt want to be in space.
    I do not want to be in the FF8 space station in FF14. Now if the Garleans have some trans-dimensional spacey place, that can work. Similar to how you're floating over Vana'diel in the Empyreal Paradox when you fight Promathia in FFXI.
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    Last edited by Sidious; 02-14-2012 at 12:27 PM.

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