The 3-Strikes Policy - Is it really a good thing?

[Sarevok_Thordin]

Just don't do it. Don't be a curse word apologist. It is not normal behavior to curse freely. That's all it is.

You'd be amazed at how normal it is.

[technole]

You'd be amazed at how normal it is.

You'd be amazed how many are complaining about getting banned for such. But alas if getting a scratch on their permanent record is a wake up call, good.

[KayRadley]

It is not normal behavior to curse freely.

That's a bunch of honking bullpucky and you know it.

[Ftail]

Honestly, I don’t know how people can defend the current system. There should be some leniency for good behavior, tell me why a mark should be taken off for 3 to 5 years of good behavior?

I know someone who got a second strike for cursing at a boss, not another player, over 8 years from the previous offense. What’s the point of even having a language filter? He hasn’t missed a sub period so he’s been playing continuously since then, and the current system is incredibly unforgiving.

I was joking with him that by the year 2030 he’s going to have his account deleted. So he decided to remove all chat logs from his game so he can’t even see other people’s messages in say, shout, party ETC and he only communicates through discord.

The draconian system needs to change.

[Mykll]

What’s the point of even having a language filter?

That is part of what is not making sense to me. The game is rated T partly because of Language. The game loves to use shite a lot. Because adding an E at the end totally makes it not a curse word. And, it has a filter people can use. And people can get strikes and banned for using such language even when it is not directed at anybody?

And why is this beaver dam editor always putting in extra line breaks?

[linayar]

That is part of what is not making sense to me. The game is rated T partly because of Language. The game loves to use shite a lot. Because adding an E at the end totally makes it not a curse word. And, it has a filter people can use. And people can get strikes and banned for using such language even when it is not directed at anybody?

The game rating is for the game, not online interaction.

The language filter is for when mistakes happen so people don't have to see other people using it, but does not change the rule.

As for the "inconsistency" of seeing game characters doing it, I think it's like seeing game characters wanting for people to die. It does not mean they will tolerate any player saying they want people to die (presumably).

[Nothv13]

The game rating is for the game, not online interaction.

The language filter is for when mistakes happen so people don't have to see other people using it, but does not change the rule.

As for the "inconsistency" of seeing game characters doing it, I think it's like seeing game characters wanting for people to die. It does not mean they will tolerate any player saying they want people to die (presumably).

YEs and the online portion is not rated, so really according to the ratings, anything could go, but that is unrealistic. I expect a T rated online game to have rules that a teen could follow. Working with teens myself, swears here or there never got anything more than a quick "Don't do that". Only when it got into strings or targeted swears did any actual punishment happen.

[linayar]

YEs and the online portion is not rated, so really according to the ratings, anything could go, but that is unrealistic. I expect a T rated online game to have rules that a teen could follow. Working with teens myself, swears here or there never got anything more than a quick "Don't do that". Only when it got into strings or targeted swears did any actual punishment happen.

Well, again, that's why there's a filter. You don't get punished unless you get reported. You may not get reported if people use filter and it's enough for them that it's blocked. But if it's not enough or you use excessive profanity or whatever and get reported, the rule is still the rule. A teen can and should be expected to follow such rules inside the game regardless of how they can act outside the game.

[Enla]

I don't mind the punishments but the lack of ability to remove demerits with good behavior baffles me. If you go several years without committing another offense at least one strike should be removed from your account or downgraded to a 'warning' on your file. You shouldn't have to worry about having two strikes on your account from, say, 2.1 and know that one more strike in 5.4 several years later could terminate your entire account in spite of a spotless record in-between. Yes a significant amount of time should pass before any strikes are even considered for removal but I don't think 3-5 years per strike is asking too much.

[rance-sama]

I was joking with him that by the year 2030 he’s going to have his account deleted. So he decided to remove all chat logs from his game so he can’t even see other people’s messages in say, shout, party ETC and he only communicates through discord.

With this godawful system in place I wouldn't blame if there's people who do just that.