Aurum Vale gripes

[Zfz]

Aurum is fine, players adjust!

No but seriously, I think (1) people have become spoiled by all the brain-dead AOE-fest dungeons; and (2) people have experienced higher level gameplay and now syncced low-level is just unbelievably dull.

I wish every expansion had a couple of non-AOE dungeons where healers have to use Repose, DPS has to focus fire, tanks have to position properly etc. Leave them out of the roulettes to avoid the crybabies throwing a fit, but make them rewarding. When everything is tuned to be just mindless w2wAOE, the level designers who created the beautiful and intricate interiors must be feeling very empty inside.

[WoW]

It's my favourite dungeon...

[Lanadra]

So in the first day of this event alone, I've leveled my DRK to level 59 from 54, so 5 levels. A lot of that comes from running prae twice, castrum meridianum once, and aurum vale... a lot. Which is sweet and all, but I'd rather not be in aurum vale for longer than I need to. Which leads to my current gripe about this event - aurum vale has been run so much by so many that a lot of people snoozefest it.

I've been paired with 2 or 3 really... stale healers through duty finder today for aurum vale and it's really, really been sucky to die every time. I pop my cooldowns, make full use of my abilities as much as I reasonably can be expected to (with as much knowledge of them as I have which, admittedly, isn't a lot considering I'm still relatively fresh to tanking).

Every time, I'm paired with a whm that casts maybe three or four holies the entire run, does no DPS at ALL outside of that, and even has to be reminded to even pop a cure my way. I'd votekick them but that's not a guarantee that they'll get kicked for one, and for two, it'd take WAY too long to find another healer - more time than it's worth. So I sigh, cast edge of darkness, and keep going.

Maybe I'll tell them, "hey, remember that the best damage mitigation is DPSing, even the most minimal amount will make this go faster!" But that's gotten tiring to say, even outside of this event.

I mean, do I expect you to do full dps rotations constantly casting and keeping holy on hand ALL THE TIME? no, not at all, if I can't do that I don't expect *you* to do it! What I do expect, however, is maybe more than a cure 1 every 30 seconds? Maybe don't let me die?

I don't want to go into Aurum vale with the expectation of "sigh, this is gonna take way too long, ugh" if i see a White Mage.

What's with this? (Also ngl, it's almost exclusively white mages that do this, which is another gripe of mine because WHM is SO powerful even at lower level dngns like this! What gives, bro!)

I'm like.. what.. you must have been running with some really bad WHM's then.. I tend to cast Stone, Aero and Holy more than I do Cure II. You'd be surprised how much time for DPS you free up even just with Regen. Just about the only time I don't get much DPS out is when I get tanks who need their healthbar tended to by a babysi- healer every second.

In all seriousness, Aurum Vale in my experience is one of the worst dungeons I've ever had the misfortune of playing.. and that goes five times more for playing it as a Healer. Rushing tanks and DPS who won't use the damn fruits are the bane of my existence in that hellhole.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Aurum is fine, players adjust!

No but seriously, I think (1) people have become spoiled by all the brain-dead AOE-fest dungeons; and (2) people have experienced higher level gameplay and now syncced low-level is just unbelievably dull.

I wish every expansion had a couple of non-AOE dungeons where healers have to use Repose, DPS has to focus fire, tanks have to position properly etc. Leave them out of the roulettes to avoid the crybabies throwing a fit, but make them rewarding. When everything is tuned to be just mindless w2wAOE, the level designers who created the beautiful and intricate interiors must be feeling very empty inside.

Normally I agree with this statement, but given that folks tend to bumrush everything and anything anymore and the damage vs healing scale is tipped in favor of the former... yeah. I at least need my panic heal buttons to keep these kids from running infront of traffic and even then they sometimes still do.

[Nightroad]

I love AV.
It is my most favorite dungeon.

[Axxion]

Just saying mines too

[Arkevorkhat]

Aurum Vale isn't a *bad* dungeon, per se. The issue with it for me is that it was brought forth from 1.0, and that comes with some baggage, specifically that it doesn't follow the same design language as the rest of ARR's dungeons; you're expected to know not to pull entire rooms, to be willing to take environmental damage to avoid mobs, and to pay attention to the ways different mobs interact with players in combat. It doesn't fit in with the rest of A Realm Reborn's dungeons, setting aside the other expansions, any better than the coils of bahamut would fit in with the Normal Raids roulette.

[Awha]

My only issue with AV is when people start yelling at others to eat a fruit on the last boss when the boss is nearly dead. That is really the only thing that triggers me about AV. Like relax mob is nearly dead just burn down the last 10%

[Vuk_Varvarasch]

Been ages since I ran it last, but I have noticed that any time I end up healing it, I feel like I am out of MP about 15 seconds into the first pull, long before the tank can pull everything in sight or dps have had time to compete in having the most stacks. Any other dungeon I can spam heal the tank for days if needed, but the moment I set foot inside the first room in that place it feels like I've got about five casts before I'm desperately pressing Lucid Dreaming...

Probably just exaggerated memories from bad runs, but I still dread healing it to this day.

[AnnRam]

If your healer its an sprout and uses the standard WHM outfit you should expect a long time dungeon.