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  1. #11
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    The dungeon is crap. And it's at a level range where every class is crap too. Even worse if the players are also crap since it's so easy to pull a room with the close proximity of multiple mob packs. Very much a Tank and Healer check. Moreso on Healer side since big groups at that level leave healers with less to work with.
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  2. #12
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    Bsrking5's Avatar
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Its one of my favorite dungeons. But it also shows how low the bar for msq really goes. This dungeon should be the standard level of player competence at a minimum required for 50+.
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  3. #13
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    Bsrking5's Avatar
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    The dungeon is crap. And it's at a level range where every class is crap too. Even worse if the players are also crap since it's so easy to pull a room with the close proximity of multiple mob packs. Very much a Tank and Healer check. Moreso on Healer side since big groups at that level leave healers with less to work with.
    I've seen more environment deaths then anything else. And its the tanks and healers who normally get blamed wrongly for it. Its not that hard with basic knowledge of the game.
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  4. #14
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    i find it very sad AV is more stimulating than most of the 80s dungeons. Screw the complaints i want more AV like dungeons
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    “Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
    -Live letter 66, 9/17/21

    Where is the ambition?

  5. #15
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    i find it very sad AV is more stimulating than most of the 80s dungeons. Screw the complaints i want more AV like dungeons
    to be fair, I probably would enjoy it more if I could run it properly ahah. I've gotten to run it correctly like... once. 'twas fun, healer was playing chicken with my health and i LOVED it, because they were also DPSing and it felt, well, right. I was on the edge of my seat, wondering if I'd die, and not in a bad way!

    I'd much rather that, versus a whm standing like, as far away as possible and casting cure 1 every 30 seconds, twiddling their thumbs.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

  6. #16
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    i find it very sad AV is more stimulating than most of the 80s dungeons. Screw the complaints i want more AV like dungeons
    I'm all for a more challenging dungeon...that isn't what the inside of a Malboro's stomach probably looks like. Aesthetically I find it very, very unpleasing to the eye.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  7. #17
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    I'm not a fan, but cannot put on my finger why I've always hated it, it might just it's overall design. I don't even find it hard to heal, especially now. And the masochistic side of me actually missed the days when the first boss would kill SCH pets and make it a pain to heal. For me it was like the one redeeming thing lol because I used to find it funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's my favourite dungeon...
    And suddenly we don't get along.

    I kid. But it is my least favourite dungeon.
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    Last edited by Saefinn; 03-16-2021 at 03:53 PM.

  8. #18
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    Curisu's Avatar
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    Chryden Speakel
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Blue Mage Lv 80
    I also kinda like AV.
    It is a fast dungeon and a little bit challenging.
    I guess only the 4 player trails are faster in the leveling roulett.
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  9. #19
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    i find it very sad AV is more stimulating than most of the 80s dungeons. Screw the complaints i want more AV like dungeons
    True, but AV is also way more prone to making you facedesk than other dungeons.

    The entire trying not to bite off more than you can chew in terms of mob packs is pretty cool and all, until you get someone who just has to stand in the middle of the room and pull the everything while trying to look cool.
    (2)

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  10. #20
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    SomeRandomHuman's Avatar
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    Tabi Fox
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    playing WHM in AV is rough since you don't have your panic button Benediction. SCH has a far easier time because it has it's main panic button in Lustrate. Also Adlo spamming and getting a crit one every now and then really helps tank survivability. AST also has it's main panic button in Essential Dignity which is basically a full heal from low hp.

    I dislike AV for the same reason I dislike Brayflox's: the incoming damage is noticeably higher than the dungeon before it and you don't have access to a key tool by 1 level. I still have nightmares of doing brayflox's as a 2.x WHM and not being able to use regen or having shroud of saints to restore MP.
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