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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Since being among the first to clear certain content is considered a big deal by the softcore.. I mean hardcore crowd then yeah that would be an endgame advantage.
    Time isn't the reward, at least not in the context of the OP. They are talking about selling endgame rewards for real money. Jump potions only provide a skip to lvl 70 (currently), which isn't even max level. They still need to grind to get there. So no, they don't provide much of an advantage when it comes to getting endgame gear from raids. You can only get so far.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-13-2021 at 10:54 AM.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Time isn't the reward, at least not in the context of the OP. They are talking about selling endgame rewards for real money. Jump potions only provide a skip to lvl 70 (currently), which isn't even max level. They still need to grind to get there. So no, they don't provide much of an advantage when it comes to getting endgame gear from raids. You can only get so far.
    Funny how you say "much" and "so far" when you can't refute it. It's cute watching kids squirm.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    when you can't refute it.
    I already have. You can pick apart my wording as much as you want though. Knock yourself out. When you have to resort to arguing trivial semantics...you've got nothing.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-13-2021 at 11:12 AM.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I already have. You can pick apart my wording as much as you want though. Knock yourself out. When you have to resort to arguing semantics...you've got nothing.
    You can't just push the I win button.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    You can't just push the I win button.
    Didn't need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Didn't need to.
    As long you are content with being wrong.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Since being among the first to clear certain content is considered a big deal by the softcore.. I mean hardcore crowd then yeah that would be an endgame advantage.
    As a World progger, anyone who's actually serious at getting world 1st on anything is already max level and has planned months ahead of time to participate in the race.
    Meaning the time to endgame is literally never a variable in the equation, since it will have been done long, long, LONG before the race, whether you level skip or level manually get to endgame. Level/story boosters aren't pay to win in any context; they provide zero endgame advantage where content actually matters. This is also irrelevant on any race besides the very 1st of each expansion, as you'll already be at max level for the world races in .2 & .4 patches just from participating in the world race of .0.

    This even disregards the fact that each tier of raids opens up with a set of crafted gear that literally renders any time you spent grinding on any sort of gear at endgame invalid, meaning someone at endgame 3 months before a new raid patch who used a level boost will have zero advantage than someone who got to endgame 1 day before raid patch after spending 300 hours grinding through the MSQ.

    Unless you'd like to tell me how that level boost manages to reach out into the real world and inject you with the knowledge of how to perfectly master your rotation, know every mechanic of every fight and can execute them flawlessly, and gives you a set of 530 gear instantly.

    Doesn't matter if you took 300 hours or 3 to reach endgame; your player skill is literally the only thing that matters at Savage/Ultimate, which no level/story boost can give.
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    Last edited by Daeriion_Aeradiir; 03-13-2021 at 11:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    Funny how you say "much" and "so far" when you can't refute it. It's cute watching kids squirm.
    The "so far", at least, was used in the context that it only gives an advantage to a certain point and not further, not that it doesn't give an advantage "yet".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    As a World progger, anyone who's actually serious at getting world 1st on anything is already max level and has planned months ahead of time to participate in the race.
    Meaning the time to endgame is literally never a variable in the equation, since it will have been done long, long, LONG before the race, whether you level skip or level manually get to endgame. Level/story boosters aren't pay to win in any context; they provide zero endgame advantage where content actually matters. This is also irrelevant on any race besides the very 1st of each expansion, as you'll already be at max level for the world races in .2 & .4 patches just from participating in the world race of .0.

    This even disregards the fact that each tier of raids opens up with a set of crafted gear that literally renders any time you spent grinding on any sort of gear at endgame invalid, meaning someone at endgame 3 months before a new raid patch will have zero advantage than someone who got to endgame 1 day before raid patch.

    Unless you'd like to tell me how that level boost manages to reach out into the real world and inject you with the knowledge of how to perfectly master your rotation, know every mechanic of every fight and can execute them flawlessly, and gives you a set of 530 gear instantly.


    Guess we're done here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The "so far", at least, was used in the context that it only gives an advantage to a certain point and not further, not that it doesn't give an advantage "yet".
    That is exactly what I meant. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    Did you really create a 4 page long thread out of a troll post just because the troll OP promised it "totally wasn't a super duper troll post"?
    By the Twelve...
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