I was issued a warning no info given. Thought our party finder issues were resolved?

[Themarvin]

Honestly, it will. People will not stay in a place or a game where the authority refuses to state what exactly was done, this is easily done without breaking any privacy policy. Nor will people stay because that anyone can report anyone for the tiniest slight, and that person then gets a warning or worse. This very efficiently mutes the rest of the population, disrupts good people's gameplay, and drives people away because they want to have fun in a game, (appropriate ofc) not be terrified to play the game in one of the ways it was intended. People *are* scared, and good people and players will leave and have.

It say clearly PARTYFINDER on it, and it clearly indicates it is a place to find groups at for content within the game, or recruitment for content, eg. static groups, what more do they need to tell the crowd?!? Someone made a complaint... yes it was a long run, but now the GM's and people behind the scene is viewing this, and as it is, if it is not relevant to the content the game provide, then it can easely be viewed as spam and flooding, both in one and both things is against the ToS and against the use of using Partyfinder as technically, it is causing some kind of obstruction to those that use partyfinder to what it is intended for.

People will keep playing, if not being able to use that feature is an issue, then I feel and think more like that it is more a problem with the player, playing the game vs the game itself.

There is fellowships as an option and I wonder why no one really engaged themself into the use of these instead, they are quite valueable and you can easy enough get a message out to those people who is a member of whatever fellowship, as long as you do not cross anything that would conflict with the ToS.

[Awha]

Honestly, it will. People will not stay in a place or a game where the authority refuses to state what exactly was done, this is easily done without breaking any privacy policy. Nor will people stay because that anyone can report anyone for the tiniest slight, and that person then gets a warning or worse. This very efficiently mutes the rest of the population, disrupts good people's gameplay, and drives people away because they want to have fun in a game, (appropriate ofc) not be terrified to play the game in one of the ways it was intended. People *are* scared, and good people and players will leave and have.

Here is the problem the people that this vague guideline impact happen to be in the minority at least in the minds of the general playerbase.Vast majority of players probably will never go above one strike.

People will leave but oddly enough the people that will leave most likely the general player base will be okay with leaving.

[SturmChurro]

I'd say most people don't even actually get any strikes, but many have, and they didn't leave the game because of it. Game is actually growing at a steady rate. I just find it odd that I haven't seen this much fervor over ToS enforcement until RP started getting hit. People have gone on about it for years, and always would get shut down.

[Awha]

Yeah the RP community just has to adapt. I mean I could be wrong but highly doubt RP is going to be the thing that causes SE to change their policy.

[Saefinn]

It say clearly PARTYFINDER on it, and it clearly indicates it is a place to find groups at for content within the game, or recruitment for content, eg. static groups, what more do they need to tell the crowd?!? Someone made a complaint... yes it was a long run, but now the GM's and people behind the scene is viewing this, and as it is, if it is not relevant to the content the game provide, then it can easely be viewed as spam and flooding, both in one and both things is against the ToS and against the use of using Partyfinder as technically, it is causing some kind of obstruction to those that use partyfinder to what it is intended for.

People will keep playing, if not being able to use that feature is an issue, then I feel and think more like that it is more a problem with the player, playing the game vs the game itself.

There is fellowships as an option and I wonder why no one really engaged themself into the use of these instead, they are quite valueable and you can easy enough get a message out to those people who is a member of whatever fellowship, as long as you do not cross anything that would conflict with the ToS.

As long as people don't break the ToS doing so, they can use the PF for anything they want, this is the clarification the community reps gave. Granted spam would count as breaking the ToS.

But from a roleplay perspective looking at the tools in game for looking for RP or for people to join RP, I see it as thus:

Fellowship Finder - a set of tools (which need improving) that can be used to form communities around certain themes or find groups of people who maybe interested in getting involved in RP. Just as it can be a useful tool for people to find statics, groups that focus on certain types of content or communities with certain demographics in mind and so on.
Party Finder - useful if you're running an RP right now or about to start running one. It's useful to bring more people in something public you're running or you might be somebody opening it up to see what open RP's could be going down. This wouldn't be spam because you're gathering people to join for a type of content.

For people who're spamming Party Finder with adds, like "Come to our Bar Thursdays at Mist Ward X Plot Y at 9pm EST" that they keep putting up even when it isn't starting or started, then yeah, I think that's ill use of the Party Finder.

[Vespar]

Perhaps we do need some clarification or policy changes in regards to RP. That said, I think Fellowship Finder, Shout channel, Reddit and/or Discord-based advertising of the "venue", is more than enough. I do feel PARTY FINDER is not the best place for it and muddles up the party finder with excessive amounts of unnecessary advertising that aren't actually helping people find parties for IN-GAME content. Which kind of goes against its intended purpose.

[LianaThorne]

For people who're spamming Party Finder with adds, like "Come to our Bar Thursdays at Mist Ward X Plot Y at 9pm EST" that they keep putting up even when it isn't starting or started, then yeah, I think that's ill use of the Party Finder.

Just to back up your point on ill use, on the main page of my Party Finder right now, there are 4 ads up for events with start times ranging from tonight to Friday.

[Canadane]

An easy solution to unwanted advertisements would be to change the requirements for joining.
Right now you can set a minimum ilvl of 999. Just make it the max of whatever is currently available. That way the power is in the players to be able to join and leave an existing PF to shut it down.

[Vahlnir]

An easy solution to unwanted advertisements would be to change the requirements for joining.
Right now you can set a minimum ilvl of 999. Just make it the max of whatever is currently available. That way the power is in the players to be able to join and leave an existing PF to shut it down.

That would open the window for potential griefing/trolling though, deserved and undeserved. So basically, trading one can of worms for another can of worms.

[DamianFatale]

Saturday night, I had a RP venue listing up in PF. Zero profanity was worded within it. I get pulled into GM jail and am issued a warning. The GM blatantly refuses to tell me WHY i am pulled into GM jail due to "privacy policy", I've submitted a petition to the warning given and not been given any correspondence. No profanity was said to any characters around me, or by me prior that night. I'm at an absolute loss as to why this happened other than the fact that it's related to our party finder issue.

And people bullied me on here, insisting that I must have said something that actually broke the rules. Kettle wanted it's pot back I guess.