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[Penthea]

Hmm, very ironic. Also, he is right.

Now for my explanation on the matter. I think RP shouldn't be allowed at all. None. Why? This a rated 13+ game. And with the past experiences I've had with RP'ers in FFXIV, it was very awkward, cringe and can downright spiral into 18+ ERP at any given moment. And this was in open chat years back in 2.0'ish. Now you may say "Well I don't do it", that doesn't matter. It doesn't mean that no one else does it. With the way RP is and how some people can take it off the rails pretty fast, it needs to be heavily moderated for a 13+ game. No if's and or but's. Things may have been different in the past years for RP but if people are reporting RP as it is now, it means that RP is getting out of hand.

I understand people love to RP and those who ERP ruin it for them but it really shouldn't be in a 13+ game as I said RP could easily turn into ERP. I mean, imagine you have a 13/14+ year old daughter or son who is playing with you and they start getting ERP messages from someone or even just normal RP messages which would turn into ERP or hearing it in normal chat. Would you be mad, etc?

Either the rp community in NA is truly horrendous or you're greatly exaggerating.

Also lets not talk about rp as if it's the only sort of thing that can expose minors to inappropriate chatter. If a creep wants to be a creep they will find a way, with or without rp. I met plenty of creeps in my time gaming online and most of the time their advances did not start from rp at all. We didn't even meet through rp. Sometimes having a character that they think looks attractive is enough to get their attention. And no glamming modestly doesn't completely protect you from that kind of attention.

[LianaThorne]

Either the rp community in NA is truly horrendous or you're greatly exaggerating.

I wouldn't call it "horrendous" per say, but I would say it is heavily money driven (outside of Crystal apparently). And people in my DC at least know that RP venues make money so there are several venues that have opened simply for the purpose of making money through 18+ content. Personally I know someone who is planning to open one in the near future because of that. So I'm sure that factor is driving some people on the side that doesn't want 18+ content to be removed. Due to the fact that some are standing to lose a part of their income.

I'm not sure if any other DCs experience this (particularly EU/JP) but that's the situation that I'm aware of from Aether.

[Penthea]

I wouldn't call it "horrendous" per say, but I would say it is heavily money driven (outside of Crystal apparently). And people in my DC at least know that RP venues make money so there are several venues that have opened simply for the purpose of making money through 18+ content. Personally I know someone who is planning to open one in the near future simply for that purpose. I'm not sure if any other DCs experience this (particularly EU/JP) but that's the situation that I'm aware of from Aether.

I have only done a handful of rp in this game and most of it was with fc members, people I know very well. However I do know people who rp a lot and while they have some interesting stories about creeps, my impression is they're the exception not the norm. It seems for the most part the rpers they interact with are just lore junkies using the game as a creative outlet. I did a lot of rp in WoW and again while I have some interesting stories, for the most part people just wanted to create stories. The majority of my bad rp experiences have been due to people who were just bad at rp, not those who wanted to erp. EU servers in both cases. I have no clue how different or similar rp is in NA in both games.

And I'm disinclined to blindly believe that NA is just full of degenerates because many of those who criticise rp in the forums put rp and erp in the same basket. Similar to how many casual players put vocal elitist raiders and raiders who mind their own business in the same basket. Many players cannot and even refuse to see the difference.

At this point I am getting curious enough that I may make a NA alt to have a look for myself. I don't think it's as bad as many say it is, but like I said before I have no experience rping in a NA community. Maybe it is very different.

[LianaThorne]

I have only done a handful of rp in this game and most of it was with fc members, people I know very well. However I do know people who rp a lot and while they have some interesting stories about creeps, my impression is they're the exception not the norm. It seems for the most part the rpers they interact with are just lore junkies using the game as a creative outlet. I did a lot of rp in WoW and again while I have some interesting stories, for the most part people just wanted to create stories. The majority of my bad rp experiences have been due to people who were just bad at rp, not those who wanted to erp. EU servers in both cases. I have no clue how different or similar rp is in NA in both games.

And I'm disinclined to blindly believe that NA is just full of degenerates because many of those who criticise rp in the forums put rp and erp in the same basket. Similar to how many casual players put vocal elitist raiders and raiders who mind their own business in the same basket. Many players cannot and even refuse to see the difference.

At this point I am getting curious enough that I may make a NA alt to have a look for myself. I don't think it's as bad as many say it is, but like I said before I have no experience rping in a NA community. Maybe it is very different.

Oh yeah I'm not at all saying it's everyone. For example, I've seen a new venue pop up over the last week that's SFW and strictly for fun, not profit. However, this is not something I see very often and I more than not visit venues that expect you to pay real gil (Some are reasonable and fair while others ask for 10K+ for items that would cost 90% less on MB). Most (and by most I mean 98%) of the advertisements for venues hiring people these days that I have seen include: "Like RP? Want to get paid for it?" or "Hiring Courtesans, pay included!" (Still kind of blows my mind that people are advertising for ERP workers during this whole thing while people are getting reported like crazy for it by the witch hunt moving through Aether, but to each their own). So, I stand by what I say that it's money driven rather than people doing it simply for the love of RP. If that was the case, I wouldn't have to expect to bring gil with me when I go out with my boyfriend and could pay with pretend money (like is the case in Crystal from what I've been told).

Also, and this is again my opinion, a good handful or more of the 18+ venues I've visited do involve courtesan services. I'm not at all saying every 18+ venue does that because that's not true. I see it mostly in the nightclub scene compared to bars or other 18+ venues. On any given night (especially Th-Sun though), you'll see at least 5-10 ads of people advertising 18+ nightclubs (some not even bothering to remove Courts/Courtesans from their PF).

Feel free to come check it out though if you want.

[Awha]

I have only done a handful of rp in this game and most of it was with fc members, people I know very well. However I do know people who rp a lot and while they have some interesting stories about creeps, my impression is they're the exception not the norm. It seems for the most part the rpers they interact with are just lore junkies using the game as a creative outlet. I did a lot of rp in WoW and again while I have some interesting stories, for the most part people just wanted to create stories. The majority of my bad rp experiences have been due to people who were just bad at rp, not those who wanted to erp. EU servers in both cases. I have no clue how different or similar rp is in NA in both games.

And I'm disinclined to blindly believe that NA is just full of degenerates because many of those who criticise rp in the forums put rp and erp in the same basket. Similar to how many casual players put vocal elitist raiders and raiders who mind their own business in the same basket. Many players cannot and even refuse to see the difference.

At this point I am getting curious enough that I may make a NA alt to have a look for myself. I don't think it's as bad as many say it is, but like I said before I have no experience rping in a NA community. Maybe it is very different.

It is not bad as bad but negative but negative experiences stand out that is all. Also people often mistake trolls as genuine role players.

Do not get me wrong sure you get the random tell about erp on some servers, but it is as bad as people make it out though. Unless you have a zero tolerance policy then nothing anyone says can change their position causs erp does happen, and some times minors do get caught up in it.