I was issued a warning no info given. Thought our party finder issues were resolved?

[RavenEbonclaw]

May I ask why you are so quick to give up rather than try to get GMs to give a clear set of rules?

They should be held to a black and white standard after all. There should be no "grey" areas. Rules should be defined and clear.

[Awha]

May I ask why you are so quick to give up rather than try to get GMs to give a clear set of rules?

End of the day I do not think the GM's will change. They are not perfect and only human, and due to being human their actions will be rooted in their own personal bias. When it comes to actions like ERP or anything 18+ in a game where children play as much as I do not like it given the other thread regarding this. People will always judge what they do not understand or care to understand. As such it is not a hill I am willing to die on. You guys can do you, but personally I do not think it is worth it. Main reason why I avoid saying much of anything in game, I have been reported twice once for dropping the F-bomb, and the other for making a joke about a dragoon killing themselves. I got lucky with one GM, and not so lucky with the other.

Sadly GM's in this game do not operate in a black and white fashion, and I doubt they will. I think SE rather not clearly define where the line is so people do not know how far they push it. If the keep in vague in their eyes maybe they think it keeps things more civil. Also SE kinda tanked one mode I have enjoyed with their scorched earth view point. I use to love the feast, but due to the "toxic" nature of PvP they thought it was a good idea to just to remove chat altogether, and even when the PvP community asked to compromise and make it so we could at the very least use chat at the start of a match they ignored us.

So maybe the RP community will get a better answer, but I doubt it in the end. I am just the type of person that likes to focus on what I can do, instead of solely trying to hope for things to change. I do enjoy the discussion though either way.

[Iscah]

EDIT: does this now also mean you cannot advertise a fc to be 18+ even though you may not rp at all and just don't want kids in your fc?

I've seen this argument brought up a few times, but personally I'd never connect "18+" in an ad to mean "we just want to be an FC for adults and not teenagers". People are still pretty immature at 18 if that's your concern. The age restriction is a legal one for certain content types, not an indicator that someone has turned into a mature adult.

[SturmChurro]

If I see “rp venue” and tos violation, I’m going to assume erp was involved. Sorry, but that’s the bed the “rp” (read: not actually rp) has made for itself in this game.

I’d like to encourage players to report anything they find offensive ingame so we can see more of this in the future, as well.

Agreed. I don't believe a GM would take action for no reason. They don't actually act on every single report.

[Wyssahtyn]

A GM just said that ERP and ERP advertising isn't against ToS? Last I checked such content was against ToS. This GM needs to be kicked off of the GM team. This game has very dark implications and moments don't get me wrong, but I'm pretty sure actually acting out graphic sexual content is very much against the ToS.

It's funny that people are pushing the cropped version of that chat log now as gospel. Pretty sure back when the whole thing was posted some time ago people were extremely skeptical of it. Especially given how easy it would apparently be to fabricate.

Even police officers are required to tell you WHY you're being detained.

Dunno what jurisdiction you live in, but I don't know of any federal or constitutional requirement (*in the US) that requires police to tell you why you're being detained/arrested. Such things are regulated and can vary by state law, but light research into the matter would suggest that most have no such requirements to inform, just that they have a legal reason to detain/arrest in the first place. The only relevant thing I can think of would be invoking habeas corpus to a court, but I would imagine that's typically unnecessary since most people would be arraigned within a reasonable time frame.

[Theodric]

It's funny that people are pushing the cropped version of that chat log now as gospel. Pretty sure back when the whole thing was posted some time ago people were extremely skeptical of it. Especially given how easy it would apparently be to fabricate.

It's also bizarre how often people say that ERP isn't happening yet just happen to have that particular screenshot to hand to explain why, if ERP were happening, it's supposedly fine.

Also, it's just a theory but it's possible for GM's to make their character invisible. Who knows? Maybe they saw fit to use that ability, investigated and found something that was highly inappropriate.

[Cerver]

It's funny that people are pushing the cropped version of that chat log now as gospel. Pretty sure back when the whole thing was posted some time ago people were extremely skeptical of it. Especially given how easy it would apparently be to fabricate.




Dunno what jurisdiction you live in, but I don't know of any federal or constitutional requirement that requires police to tell you why you're being detained/arrested. Such things are regulated and can vary by state law, but light research into the matter would suggest that most have no such requirements to inform, just that they have a legal reason to detain/arrest in the first place. The only relevant thing I can think of would be invoking habeas corpus to a court, but I would imagine that's typically unnecessary since most people would be arraigned within a reasonable time frame.

This is more similar to being convicted without knowing what you did, rather than being detained without knowing what you did.

Imagine going to court and both you and your lawyers defense plea is "I still dont know whats going on"

[Wyssahtyn]

This is more similar to being convicted without knowing what you did, rather than being detained without knowing what you did.

Imagine going to court and both you and your lawyers defense plea is "I still dont know whats going on"

The other person made the specific claim that police officers are required to give detainees a reason as to why they're being detained, which is what I was addressing. Your post is irrelevant to the claim that I was addressing because I'm not addressing the overall situation as you seem to be, simply the other poster's one specific claim.

[Cerver]

The other person made the specific claim that police officers are required to give detainees a reason as to why they're being detained, which is what I was addressing. Your post is irrelevant to the claim that I was addressing because I'm not addressing the overall situation as you seem to be, simply the other poster's one specific claim.

Ah fair, my mistake. Forgive me, I have been dealing with a impudent child for most of this thread and my brain is pretty fried at this point.

[Reinha]

Seems like the way to not get banned whilst advertising on the PF, is to replace "18+" with "everyone is welcome" regardless of the theme of the venue. Then the only way to report someone for inappropriate RP is to actually visit the venue, role play with players and have in game text logs of inappropriate /tells if they exist. Instead of this weird "it's probably ERP and don't talk back young lady" witch hunt.