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    Look, I am not going to justify what are ultimately business decisions based on actual market research (not research on the market board mind you) to the unrestrained gaze of the otherwise untrained public. I went to RP business school here people. And yet, your replies continue to seethe with undue judgement and derision, I mean, just look at the usage of "robbery", and the jokes being made at my expense-- when many of you forget your place, and the active role you take in a consumerist economy.

    In my mind, it's simple, go to another venue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archpoet View Post
    Look, I am not going to justify what are ultimately business decisions based on actual market research (not research on the market board mind you) to the unrestrained gaze of the otherwise untrained public. I went to RP business school here people. And yet, your replies continue to seethe with undue judgement and derision, I mean, just look at the usage of "robbery", and the jokes being made at my expense-- when many of you forget your place, and the active role you take in a consumerist economy.

    In my mind, it's simple, go to another venue.
    Yeah this makes you seem like a troll who found out he could make easy money for his raiding fc by selling to an rp market that isn't very big on their datacenter.

    Note I don't rp and do raid. Your posts just come off as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Yeah this makes you seem like a troll who found out he could make easy money for his raiding fc by selling to an rp market that isn't very big on their datacenter.

    Note I don't rp and do raid. Your posts just come off as such.
    I apologize for that perception. For my part, I am RP-ing the General Manager of this establishment. My posts represent someone struggling to maintain professionalism amid the frustrating ridiculousness that this thread has become. This forum community fancies itself reddit detectives exposing the evil RPers and all their nefarious plots, when in reality they are paragons of toxicity stamping out anything they don't understand or agree with.

    I mean, I call out the judge-y and mocking posts, and somehow now I'm the troll?
    Bottom line: it's hard for anyone RPing on any other datacenter to get a foothold, and this tragic display is one of the primary reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archpoet View Post
    Look, I am not going to justify what are ultimately business decisions based on actual market research (not research on the market board mind you) to the unrestrained gaze of the otherwise untrained public. I went to RP business school here people. And yet, your replies continue to seethe with undue judgement and derision, I mean, just look at the usage of "robbery", and the jokes being made at my expense-- when many of you forget your place, and the active role you take in a consumerist economy.

    In my mind, it's simple, go to another venue.
    "Business decisions" - I don't get it. Accepting tips for a lovely venue or a good night's RP is one thing, but I honestly don't get charging for what amounts to invisible, unreal RP food. I myself run a bakery/patisserie venue on Balmung and wouldn't dream of charging people for the invisible food. It's a lot of work, sure, and it took a lot of gil to set the place up just right, but I couldn't even begin to do so. I barely accept people tipping me of their own free will when they've enjoyed themselves.

    I hope when Data Centre travel's up, people from Primal and Aether can stop by Crystal and maybe non-charging ones can become the norm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BerryCharlotte View Post
    ...charging for what amounts to invisible, unreal RP food...
    You are mistaken, it is real food. The customers receive actual items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archpoet View Post
    Look, I am not going to justify what are ultimately business decisions based on actual market research (not research on the market board mind you) to the unrestrained gaze of the otherwise untrained public. I went to RP business school here people. And yet, your replies continue to seethe with undue judgement and derision, I mean, just look at the usage of "robbery", and the jokes being made at my expense-- when many of you forget your place, and the active role you take in a consumerist economy.

    In my mind, it's simple, go to another venue.
    Still have yet to hear what makes your venue/services worth the 400k. So, I hope that everyone does choose to go to another venue for the sake of their wallets and general sanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Still have yet to hear what makes your venue/services worth the 400k. So, I hope that everyone does choose to go to another venue for the sake of their wallets and general sanity.
    You have already quoted the answer to your question. Yours was among the most derisive of posts, and I have determined that there is no more sufficient answer to your "legitimate" question than that. Remember, you have the active role as the consumer in the FFXIV economy, so you are under no obligation to purchase anything with your gil that you do not want. No one is "robbing" you. You have the option to pass on any transaction that you do not wish to partake in, and I encourage you to execute that option. Were you to come to the Royal Ruby this Friday night and decide to not purchase anything, we would not "rob" you, or otherwise demean you for* doing so.
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    Last edited by Archpoet; 03-09-2021 at 08:08 AM. Reason: * double-negative

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archpoet View Post
    You have already quoted the answer to your question. Yours was among the most derisive of posts, and I have determined that there is no more sufficient answer to your "legitimate" question than that. Remember, you have the active role as the consumer in the FFXIV economy, so you are under no obligation to purchase anything with your gil that you do not want. No one is "robbing" you. You have the option to pass on any transaction that you do not wish to partake in, and I encourage you to execute that option. Were you to come to the Royal Ruby this Friday night and decide to not purchase anything, we would not "rob" you, or otherwise demean you for* doing so.
    I'm just trying to see what you mean by "paying for the experience". So I'm curious what experience you are providing. That's all. Don't have to answer me if you don't want to but doesn't make your practices any less sheisty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archpoet View Post
    I went to RP business school here people.
    As opposed to a real life business school?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    As opposed to a real life business school?
    Glad someone caught that. I sure needed the levity, I hope you did too!
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